Traffic Stop

[Poodle Soup]

I guess I don't understand furnishing information to the officer that is not required by law and is not relevant to the traffic stop.

The officer stopped you for a traffic offense......this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you have a carry permit.

My opening that can of worms you just created more problems. If you are asked to get out of the car.........then you mention that you have a permit and that you are armed!

I agree... and disagree. No harm no foul if they don't discover a weapon on you. On the other hand if they are watching your hands as your reaching for your wallet and your cover garment moves and exposes your gun... Now you could have problems. Including a bullet wound. Each situation would be different I suppose depending on how you carry.

On my drive to and from work I have a gun tucked into the front of my waistband in a pocket holster. I really dont want a cop walking up to my window and notice the gun there while Im rummaging around for my information and be shot because it looks like Im reaching for a gun.

 

[Yiogo]

Good point that one could have committed a crime after obtaining the permit BUT bet the permit would been taken away. Good point that one could commit a crime afterward. All I'm saying is if one believes that disarming is justified that's fine. It's just so trite and tiresome hearing, "the officer doesn't know you are a good guy." When we mean the officer doesn't care whether you are or not. That's ok too. Yiogo

 

[Kanewpadle]

I guess I don't understand furnishing information to the officer that is not required by law and is not relevant to the traffic stop.

The officer stopped you for a traffic offense......this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you have a carry permit.

My opening that can of worms you just created more problems. If you are asked to get out of the car.........then you mention that you have a permit and that you are armed!

If you open a can of worms then you must have something to hide. I don't understand the selfishness around here at times. Put yourself in the cops shoes. He just wants to go home to his family unharmed. If informing him that I am LEGALLY armed puts him just a little at ease then the stop will go much better.

For the record I've been pulled over twice in the last 30 years. One for speeding and the other a burned out tail light. Both times I informed the officer that I was legally armed. Both times they were so appreciative that they let me go with a warning.

Edited to add: If you're asked to get out of the car, your problems are worse than a simple traffic stop. And waiting until then to inform him that you are armed is foolish.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Good point that one could have committed a crime after obtaining the permit BUT bet the permit would been taken away. Good point that one could commit a crime afterward. All I'm saying is if one believes that disarming is justified that's fine. It's just so trite and tiresome hearing, "the officer doesn't know you are a good guy." When we mean the officer doesn't care whether you are or not. That's ok too. Yiogo

You made a good point too. I just think of these poor guys that are just trying to do a job. And some of them don't have any backup or it's 20-30 minutes away. If I can help him feel a little at ease then it works out better for both of us. If he totally drops his guard then that's on him.

COOPERATION, THE RIGHT ATTITUDE, UNDERSTANDING, and COMMON SENSE WILL DETERMINE THE OUTCOME WHEN STOPPED!

 

[MaximumLawman]

If you open a can of worms then you must have something to hide. I don't understand the selfishness around here at times. Put yourself in the cops shoes. He just wants to go home to his family unharmed. If informing him that I am LEGALLY armed puts him just a little at ease then the stop will go much better.

Once again..."shall inform" has nothing to do with officer safety. Cops aren't shot by CPL holders who don't intend to shoot them. "Shall inform" is for the safety of the CP carrier! So they're not justifiably shot when a CP carrier goes for his wallet and forgets he has a gun right by his back pocket. Make a move for a wallet with a gun next to it? Good way to cause a lot of extra paperwork for the cops....If you are REQUIRED to announce, it's easier for the lowest common denominators to avoid get shot by the police.

Informing or not informing doesn't put me any more at ease. Number one, I assume everyone is armed. Number two, I don't assume a CPL holder is any less dangerous than anyone else I assume may be carrying. We have plenty of issues with CPL holders. It is not a "good guy" card. I don't determine if anyone gets a ticket based on whether they have a CPL card...Police or military ID maybe, but not a CPL card.