Training with the 432 UC

You can get probably half of the weight reduction of the titanium cylinder models by swapping the G-10 grips for the basic OE S&W rubber or Hamre Forge grips. I didn't care for the HF AFR high horn grips (the characteristic Spegal cut rubs my inner thumb funny), but everybody's hands are different. Most people seem to like them.

I sanded down that ridge to where it's rounder and lower. It now fits my thumb just right.
 
The more I shoot the 432, the more I love it, especially after the Apex kit.
I'm loading 85 gr Hornaday hollow points

What powder are you using with those 85's? I have a ton of them on hand and have been planning to do some load workup for both my 432UC and some other .32 revolvers of mine.

I ordered a 432UC and it is due at my shop on Monday. When I ordered it, I didn't know there was a Ti version (for only about $50 more). Am I going to regret my steel cylinder? I do plan to carry it when I don't want the Shield 9mm in my pocket.

rob

IMO no, you're not going to miss it. Not only is the steel-cylinder model very light, Titanium cylinders require extra care so as not to damage them, not only inside the chambers but also the protective finish that prevents premature erosion from the gases.
 
What powder are you using with those 85's? I have a ton of them on hand and have been planning to do some load workup for both my 432UC and some other .32 revolvers of mine.



IMO no, you're not going to miss it. Not only is the steel-cylinder model very light, Titanium cylinders require extra care so as not to damage them, not only inside the chambers but also the protective finish that prevents premature erosion from the gases.

I'm using HP-38
 
I special ordered a pair of 432-UCs (one in black and one in silver) a month or two ago. The silver one had a clocked barrel and I refused to accept it. In my experience, Smith will not fix a clocked barrel. They will tell you they will fix it. Then, two months later they will send it back to you with the exact-same-crooked front sight. :( .

While waiting on the guns I discovered that a fella can't find a single .32 H&R Mag factory found within 40 miles of our home. So, I ordered the parts to reload them on my XL750, some Starline brass, and some 85g XTPs.

While waiting for a replacement on the silver pistol, I found the black one has ~20% light strikes with my reloads (CCI #550). Gotta say though, it's a sweet shooter when it goes bang. Much tighter groups than I get with .38 in steel or Scanium J frames. Easier to do it too. The trigger isn't as smooth or light as a 640 Pro, but it's much smoother/lighter than, say...an M&P 340. Also, the 432 has much better sights than the 640 Pro. Properly regulated too.

The replacement silver 432 looks good, but I haven't shot it yet. I worked up another batch of reloads with CCI #500s and we will see if that makes any difference on the black pistol's light-strikes. Hopefully, the silver one will work as it should. If so, I'll order an extended firing pin for the black.

In any case, as others have advised, I would only pick up a 432-UC if you can inspect it in person. The stories going around on the Interwebs are justified.
 
I special ordered a pair of 432-UCs (one in black and one in silver) a month or two ago. The silver one had a clocked barrel and I refused to accept it. In my experience, Smith will not fix a clocked barrel. They will tell you they will fix it. Then, two months later they will send it back to you with the exact-same-crooked front sight. :( .

While waiting on the guns I discovered that a fella can't find a single .32 H&R Mag factory found within 40 miles of our home. So, I ordered the parts to reload them on my XL750, some Starline brass, and some 85g XTPs.

While waiting for a replacement on the silver pistol, I found the black one has ~20% light strikes with my reloads (CCI #550). Gotta say though, it's a sweet shooter when it goes bang. Much tighter groups than I get with .38 in steel or Scanium J frames. Easier to do it too. The trigger isn't as smooth or light as a 640 Pro, but it's much smoother/lighter than, say...an M&P 340. Also, the 432 has much better sights than the 640 Pro. Properly regulated too.

The replacement silver 432 looks good, but I haven't shot it yet. I worked up another batch of reloads with CCI #500s and we will see if that makes any difference on the black pistol's light-strikes. Hopefully, the silver one will work as it should. If so, I'll order an extended firing pin for the black.

In any case, as others have advised, I would only pick up a 432-UC if you can inspect it in person. The stories going around on the Interwebs are justified.

I never had misfires until I put the Apex spring kit in my 423UC. They were not really light strikes as much as pushing the whole primer in kind of a bowl shape. The new firing pin with the kit was .510 compared to .495 for the factory FP. But the new one was kind of a flat dome shape so I carefully beveled it to match the more pointed shape of the original and it's been 100% since.
It's the first J frame I've ever really looked foward to shooting. Just a pleasure and very accurate with the 85 gr XTP's.
 
Hopefully you have better luck. Curious about the light primer strikes, I have a 632 and have ran a few brands through it if 32 H&R and S&W with no issues. Would like to get into reloading eventually because the ammo is pretty scarce with in a 100 mile radius and non existent with 50 for sure.


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I never had misfires until I put the Apex spring kit in my 423UC. They were not really light strikes as much as pushing the whole primer in kind of a bowl shape. The new firing pin with the kit was .510 compared to .495 for the factory FP. But the new one was kind of a flat dome shape so I carefully beveled it to match the more pointed shape of the original and it's been 100% since.
It's the first J frame I've ever really looked foward to shooting. Just a pleasure and very accurate with the 85 gr XTP's.

Thanks for the tip. If the silver runs 100%, I'll compare the tip of the firing pins and maybe swap them for some more testing.
 
I sanded down that ridge to where it's rounder and lower. It now fits my thumb just right.

I helped design the grips and prototyped a bunch. We tried to strike some compromises on them for various size hands and thumb placement. It was determined to leave the ridge high for those who like that and the grips are designed to be sanded to fit. I flatten that ridge on mine. It is a case where you can easily remove material to fit but you cannot add it so we went with that ridge. Just carefully sand them to being whatever fits best .
 
I helped design the grips and prototyped a bunch. We tried to strike some compromises on them for various size hands and thumb placement. It was determined to leave the ridge high for those who like that and the grips are designed to be sanded to fit. I flatten that ridge on mine. It is a case where you can easily remove material to fit but you cannot add it so we went with that ridge. Just carefully sand them to being whatever fits best .

And a bang-up job y'all did! We appreciate your hard work.

I heard you talk about sanding in videos, so I felt confident enough to give it a try. It was just what I needed. After 32 years of fighting drunks and crackheads, other abuse at work, and a lifetime of wrestling with magnum loads and wrenching on Jeeps, the old thumb appreciates all the help it can get.
 
Hi Darryl, Was wondering about your thoughts on the 432UC on a couple of issues. I initially purchased the Lost River 100gr. Poly Coat that Tim developed after reading his many posts on the gun and loading. He recently posted about his newly developed 130gr. Poly Coat, semi Wadcutter. Do you have any experience with it? How about Buffalo Bore or Double Tap? Also wondering about an Apex Kit. I do want a set of the Hair Forge grips for it but they have been out of stock. Best to you, Tom
 
Since I just picked up my 432UC (non-Ti), I thought I'd share a comparison with my Taurus 327.

The 432UC weighs 17.28 ounces unloaded on my scale. The stainless Taurus weighs 22.86 ounces. Over 5.5 ounces difference. The Taurus's extra weight is very noticeable in the hand.

Both look pretty similar in overall size, with the Taurus being definitely "chunkier", but not really longer or taller. The cylinder of the Smith is 1.3" in diameter and the Bull is 1.41".

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I have fired the Taurus and with .327 mags, you do know when you've fired it, but I would not say it has heavy recoil. Maybe just a little sting. The fireball is something to behold. Very tame with .32 H&R or .32 S&W Long though. Have not yet fired the Smith.

Hope someone finds this a little helpful.

rob
 
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