Trigger on M&P 9mm Pro, how do you like it?

[Elliot45]

I recently purchase a M&P 9mm Pro. One of the reasons I purchased it was that I was looking for a better trigger than on the stock M&P 9mm and didn't mind paying extra for it. However, after going through about 1,000 rounds I thought that it felt heavy and had a gunsmith measure the trigger pull and it is almost 7 pounds. I'm considering purchasing an Apex trigger kit and having it installed but before I do I was wondering how most of you like the factory trigger. I called S&W customer service and they indicated that the Pro should have a 4 1/2 trigger pull which I'm fine with. I know that there will still be some play in the trigger which would go away with the Apex trigger but depending on your response, that might be ok. What bothers me is that I've already paid more to get a better trigger with the Pro and don't really feel like spending an extra $190 (trigger plus install) to get this weapon where it should be so I'm considering sending it back to S&W. What would you do? Let me know if a Pro factory trigger that is properly set works for you. Thanks, Jim

 

[ATF]

The only way you have a 7lb trigger is because you've bought a M&P for one of the restricted States. Either send it back to S&W or get an APEX FSS kit with the APEX trigger. Why did you buy it in the first place if the trigger was so heavy? Caveat Emptor. Stop trying to blame S&W for the trigger, blame yourself. Sounds like this is your first gun and you only found out about triggers after doing internet research after the fact. If you want a Sig or H&K trigger upgrade it'll cost close to $400.00 and a Glock about the same as APEX. Most guys here like to tune their guns just like motorheads like to tune their cars. Some guys here have spent a grand or two on their M&P to get it right for their personal needs. Buy a set of roll pin punches and put an APEX FSS full kit in and maybe get a new set of sights too and enjoy

 

[Elliot45]

ATF, this is far from being my first gun (have had them for over 40 years) and I don't live in a restricted state. I did a lot of research before I purchased the gun and chose it over a Glock 34. What purpose does it serve for S&W to advertise that the "Pro" has a 4-5 1/2 lb. trigger pull if that isn't the case. S&W agreed that it shouldn't be 7 pounds so why are you up in arms about it. As far as Careat Emptor, with a striker fired gun, you can't always know how the trigger is just by dry firing in a store. Many times it feels different when you are firing live ammo and also when you've put a few hundred rounds through it. You must be a S&W fan boy if you're worried about me blaming S&W. They made the gun and it doesn't meet specs so who else should I blame? BTW, I'm fine with the Novak sites on mine (the 5" model) and I love the accuracy of the gun but it will get better with a slightly lighter trigger. - Jim

 

[Venenoindy]

I recently purchase a M&P 9mm Pro. One of the reasons I purchased it was that I was looking for a better trigger than on the stock M&P 9mm and didn't mind paying extra for it. However, after going through about 1,000 rounds I thought that it felt heavy and had a gunsmith measure the trigger pull and it is almost 7 pounds. I'm considering purchasing an Apex trigger kit and having it installed but before I do I was wondering how most of you like the factory trigger. I called S&W customer service and they indicated that the Pro should have a 4 1/2 trigger pull which I'm fine with. I know that there will still be some play in the trigger which would go away with the Apex trigger but depending on your response, that might be ok. What bothers me is that I've already paid more to get a better trigger with the Pro and don't really feel like spending an extra $190 (trigger plus install) to get this weapon where it should be so I'm considering sending it back to S&W. What would you do? Let me know if a Pro factory trigger that is properly set works for you. Thanks, Jim

I recently purchased a Pro 5 inch and also think the trigger is a little heavy, I'm also been wanting to take it to the gunsmith to have the trigger weight measure. I do have an other pro and the trigger feels much lighter so if it turns out that my trigger is not at factory spec (4.5#) I will send it back.

 

[Elliot45]

Venenoidy, are you fine with the trigger on your other Pro? That is the question I am really asking. If it's the general consensus that most people are pretty happy with the S&W trigger in the Pro if it is set correctly, I will go ahead and send mine back and have it adjusted. However, if most people put the Apex trigger in, I don't want to waste the time of sending mine back. Looking forward to your reply. Regards, Jim

 

[Sothern Kiwi]

Venenoidy, are you fine with the trigger on your other Pro? That is the question I am really asking. If it's the general consensus that most people are pretty happy with the S&W trigger in the Pro if it is set correctly, I will go ahead and send mine back and have it adjusted. However, if most people put the Apex trigger in, I don't want to waste the time of sending mine back. Looking forward to your reply. Regards, Jim

I like my like my trigger now. I got the striker safety rounded up a little and went through all the surfaces and polished them up a wee bit.

 

[Elliot45]

Sothern Kiwei, have you checked how many pounds your trigger pull is now since you've made your adjustments?

 

[Sothern Kiwi]

Sothern Kiwei, have you checked how many pounds your trigger pull is now since you've made your adjustments?

I can't say i have.
My friend has an M&P Pro similar to mine and has had Jerry Miculek do a trigger job on it when he was in the states visiting him and they feel very similar. Don't get me wrong its still has a mile long take up but breaks clean and light.

 

[Sothern Kiwi]

I pmed you a link and a quick note on how to check which sear is fitted to the pro series.

 

[Llando88]

Jim - I did a quick web search and immediately found two threads where Pro trigger weights of 7 lbs were recorded, and one where it was 6 lbs, the owners indicating being unhappy that the trigger weight was not 4 to 4.5 lbs.

I don't own a Pro, but have been shooting my FS9 since Nov '13, with and without Apex parts. It is MY OPINION that, although you could send the gun back to S&W, my guess is you will get it back in the same condition i.e. a 7 lb pull.

Be interested to hear other Pro owners chime in. Good luck.

Rich

 

[Elliot45]

Llando88, the S&W customer service agent assured me that if I sent it in with a letter of what is wrong, that it would come back at 4.5 lbs. Evidently that is the spec that the Pro series is supposed to be set at. When I talked to my gunsmith about getting the Apex trigger to reduce the trigger pull his first reaction was that if it was lighter than the one that came with the gun, it would be too light. That was based upon the fact that he had examined other Pro Series guns and they had really good triggers already. In this case it appears that they put the wrong trigger set in it. I know that I have a S&W 686+ Pro seven shot revolver and it has a great trigger and I can tell the difference between it and the regular 686s so I was surprised when after putting hundreds of rounds through this gun that it didn't lighten up. Anyway, if they can get the trigger to 4 1/2 lbs., I think I will be happy with it as long as it breaks clean and light. Thanks again for you feedback and thoughts. Regards, Jim

 

[rustynail]

The only way you have a 7lb trigger is because you've bought a M&P for one of the restricted States. Either send it back to S&W or get an APEX FSS kit with the APEX trigger. Why did you buy it in the first place if the trigger was so heavy? Caveat Emptor. Stop trying to blame S&W for the trigger, blame yourself. Sounds like this is your first gun and you only found out about triggers after doing internet research after the fact. If you want a Sig or H&K trigger upgrade it'll cost close to $400.00 and a Glock about the same as APEX. Most guys here like to tune their guns just like motorheads like to tune their cars. Some guys here have spent a grand or two on their M&P to get it right for their personal needs. Buy a set of roll pin punches and put an APEX FSS full kit in and maybe get a new set of sights too and enjoy

I recently purchased M&P Performance Center Ported C.O.R.E. 7+ pound trigger with my Lyman gage. No I was not happy with it, talked to S&W at the Shot Show told me to send it back. I put a APEX Fully Machined sear in it and now 4.5 pounds cost around $45. Used the same roll pins. I don't live in a restricted State. Maybe I got one originally going to a restricted State?? Love my Smith's

 

[ATF]

I recently purchased M&P Performance Center Ported C.O.R.E. 7+ pound trigger with my Lyman gage. No I was not happy with it, talked to S&W at the Shot Show told me to send it back. I put a APEX Fully Machined sear in it and now 4.5 pounds cost around $45. Used the same roll pins. I don't live in a restricted State. Maybe I got one originally going to a restricted State?? Love my Smith's

I can't give an explanation for the heavier trigger except that on the S&W website they do clearly state that a Pro model has a 4.5-5lb trigger and the standard models 6.5lbs, but not all models have a quoted trigger pull weight. Maybe the slides and frames get mixed up in the factory? On my the box my Pro came in it just says M&P 9mm and the SKU number. So I would suggest anyone with this problem checks their SKU number and either send it back to S&W or put an APEX kit in it.

 

[Bkreutz]

The only time I've seen a trigger weight on a M&P box was my last pistol I bought from Bud's "Qualified Professional" program. It said 6.5lb on tag. None of my other M&P's have that. It also came with 3 mags and night sights so it was probably intended for police sales. I never measured the trigger and it was one of the first things I changed (along with a bunch of other stuff). Here's what my trigger pull was after I got done with it.

 

[Venenoindy]

Venenoidy, are you fine with the trigger on your other Pro? That is the question I am really asking. If it's the general consensus that most people are pretty happy with the S&W trigger in the Pro if it is set correctly, I will go ahead and send mine back and have it adjusted. However, if most people put the Apex trigger in, I don't want to waste the time of sending mine back. Looking forward to your reply. Regards, Jim

I actually really like it, it breaks clean and in my opinion it is just right for a self defense handgun.

 

[OKFC05]

I have 2 M&P Pros, one 5" used in matches with over 30,000 rounds and a 4.25" with about 5,000 rounds. One trigger was rough when new and the other a little gritty.
Both have settled down at a little over 4# (measured) and are smooth. I did a little light polishing on the SB.
Both are stock.
IMHO, you don't know what any trigger is going to be like until you shoot it a bit and polish out the rough spots as needed.
Also IMHO, if the trigger starts at 7#, it is not the Pro trigger in the gun.

 

[Elliot45]

OKFC05, I totally agree that if the trigger starts out at 7 lbs., it isn't going to get that much better with more shooting and after today, I've put about 1,000 rounds through it. I will admit that the grittiness that some have talked about is gone and I'm happy about that. I think that at this time I may take customer service's advice and send it back because it appears that enough of forum is happy with the S&W trigger. I also agree that maybe they installed the wrong trigger in the Pro model. You would think that they would take extra precautions before sending a special model out. What I hate is that I'm really liking shooting this gun and it may have become my favorite in my collection. Today I tried out some Remington HTP 147 grain JHP's and I really liked them and I think I could use them for self defense. I also picked up some Speer 124 gr.Lawmen at Cabela's and find those great for target practice and they were the same price as the inexpensive 115 grain ammo. I love this gun's accuracy and the way the Pro fits my hand so it's hard for me to think about parting with it for a month. I've almost convinced myself to spend the $190 to purchase the Apex kit and have it installed but I feel that it may not really be necessary if S&W can get the trigger right. Anyway, thanks everybody for your feedback and if I send it back, I'll keep everyone posted on how it turns out. Regards, Jim

 

[ATF]

Elliot get the APEX FSS kit with polymer trigger and install it yourself. Even a moron could do it and there's plenty of people here to help you if you get stuck. You will also learn how your gun works and you will get a trigger pull like a revolver in SA.

 

[Elliot45]

jackrabbit000, it sounds like your Pro had the correct trigger installed and probably has a trigger pull around 4 1/2 pounds. Unfortunately mine measures almost 7 pounds. Just curious, have you ever had your trigger pull measured and if so, what was it? Let me know. Thanks, Jim

 

[gmcman66]

M&p pro C.O.R.E, Apex aluminum trigger... Love it.now just debating on which optic for ASPSA, rmo7 or wait for the delta point pro to come out.