Trigger on M&P 9mm Pro, how do you like it?

[AGoyette]

Elliot45,
From what I have read here, it will take S&W at least 6 weeks to get your gun back to you. Maybe their turn around is better now, I sure hope so.
We have 2 5" Pro's and a CORE. All of them have the Apex FSS kits in them. 2 have the polymer trigger and one has the aluminum trigger. I left the stock trigger return spring in and the trigger pull on them is around 2.5-3 lbs. We use them in competition and are used to lighter trigger pulls. If we wanted to increase the trigger pull, we would put the Apex trigger return spring in. The FSS kit removes almost 90% of the pre travel and as for over travel, what over travel. The trigger breaks nice and crisp. Apex goes on that the FSS kit makes your trigger feel like an 1911 trigger. The husband doubted that, now he goes on and on about how the trigger feels like his old 1911's. lol BTW, I do not like how the M&P's triggers feel physically, they seem thin to me. That is why all my M&P's handguns have had their physical triggers changed.

I do agree that if the website says 4.5 lbs. then the gun should have a trigger pull of that weight. Just keep in mind that it might take them a while to get the gun back to you and you have a 50/50 chance of them saying that there is nothing wrong with the trigger.

 

[Mushki]

I have a circa 2012 m&p pro9 that I did like the trigger on. I shot it that way for a season before putting in an Apex comp kit. I believe the pro trigger broke at around 4 pounds she I pulled it out. When I swapped in the Apex kit it really was not an improvement until it broke it. Now the Apex kit breaks cleanly with less than a three pound pull, I am very happy with it.
Now back to the pro trigger. I placed the pro trigger group into my m&p 9c and I am quite happy with it in there as a carry trigger. I would say in the 9c it breaks at nearly five pounds and it rather crisp. I plan on shooting an IDPA match with it later today. The pro trigger really improved that gun.

 

[chiro972b]

I have a pro 9mm 5" and it is accurate, but the trigger is not so pro. The trigger on my shield is better and surprisingly, the trigger on my 22 compact is much better.

I'm sure the pro will smooth out with use, but if I hadn't gotten a deal and if there had been a standard full size at my shop at the time I would rather have had that. That said, it's not terrible and I'm not going to spend any money to upgrade it.

 

[PROnSHIELD]

"...how do you like it"

Disliked it enough to self install an Apex Competition Spring kit and an Apex Poly Trigger...

It's my new definition of the word "love"

 

[PROnSHIELD]

Oh and BTW and off topic...I added the Apex Shield kit but with the Apex Competition Trigger Return and Sear Springs

my second definition of the word "love"

 

[Wicchunter]

I recently purchase a M&P 9mm Pro. One of the reasons I purchased it was that I was looking for a better trigger than on the stock M&P 9mm and didn't mind paying extra for it. However, after going through about 1,000 rounds I thought that it felt heavy and had a gunsmith measure the trigger pull and it is almost 7 pounds. I'm considering purchasing an Apex trigger kit and having it installed but before I do I was wondering how most of you like the factory trigger. I called S&W customer service and they indicated that the Pro should have a 4 1/2 trigger pull which I'm fine with. I know that there will still be some play in the trigger which would go away with the Apex trigger but depending on your response, that might be ok. What bothers me is that I've already paid more to get a better trigger with the Pro and don't really feel like spending an extra $190 (trigger plus install) to get this weapon where it should be so I'm considering sending it back to S&W. What would you do? Let me know if a Pro factory trigger that is properly set works for you. Thanks, Jim

I just picked up the M&P 40 Performance Center Model. The trigger pull is way too heavy and has a lot of play in it. I also have accuracy issues... Can't get a group of any kind at 25yds off a bench rest. Called S&W today and they also told me it should be set at 4.5 lbs and I should have no problem shooting 4" groups at 70'. I also checked out the same model before I bought it... Including trigger pull, and everything felt good. I do a lot of shooting and own over a dozen handguns half of which are autos and never had problems like these. S&W emailed me a prepaid Fedex label and it goes back tomorrow.

 

[Elliot45]

Wicchunter, I feel your frustration. For me, the travel in the trigger wasn't the problem because I always knew where it is going to break. But once I got there it just felt too heavy. I received a S&W return label too but I've since decided to get the Apex FFS trigger kit. I haven't had problems with accuracy and love the gun so maybe I'm looking to get closer to perfection. I know that S&W will reduce the trigger pull but since the Apex trigger will also reduce the travel in the trigger, I've decided to cure both. I have noticed that on Apex's site that they do sell a sear separately and I believe it is supposed to move the breakpoint forward so you might want to research that. Good luck and let us know how the S&W repair turns out. Regards, Jim

 

[Bkreutz]

Wicchunter, I feel your frustration. For me, the travel in the trigger wasn't the problem because I always knew where it is going to break. But once I got there it just felt too heavy. I received a S&W return label too but I've since decided to get the Apex FFS trigger kit. I haven't had problems with accuracy and love the gun so maybe I'm looking to get closer to perfection. I know that S&W will reduce the trigger pull but since the Apex trigger will also reduce the travel in the trigger, I've decided to cure both. I have noticed that on Apex's site that they do sell a sear separately and I believe it is supposed to move the breakpoint forward so you might want to research that. Good luck and let us know how the S&W repair turns out. Regards, Jim

To move the break point with Apex parts you need to replace the sear and the trigger. The sear they sell separately is an improved stock item with the same geometry (just smoother). I have an extra Apex FSS trigger from updating to a flat faced trigger that I intend to put into a pistol just to see what will happen when the FSS trigger is used with a stock geometry sear. Haven't gotten around to it, other things seem to take priority. I'm not hoping to improve anything, just curious as to what will happen.

 

[Elliot45]

Bkreutz, thanks for the clarification regarding the sear, hopefully that will be of help to someone else. I'm hoping my trigger kit will arrive tomorrow and that I can get it installed on Friday so I can hardly wait to see the results this weekend. Regards, Jim

 

[number13]

I have the M&P9mmPro and it came with the 4-4.5 trigger pull. Was like that on day one and it has over 2,500 rounds through it now. Terrific pistol:smooth, accurate and exceptionally comfortable in hand. By the way, my experience with S&W customer service has been exceptional. They will make right, anything that is wrong. You bought a fine gun...let them adjust it.

 

[Elliot45]

number13, thanks for your reply. I really should have sent it back to S&W and let them make it right. However, I liked most of the attributes you mentioned except for the trigger pull on mine so I decided it would be quicker to order the Apex trigger kit and have it installed than send the gun back to S&W. So I ordered it on Tuesday, it came today and will be installed tomorrow. Hopefully this will make a good gun great. You are correct that it is comfortable in the hand and it is one of the most accurate I've ever shot but I feel I will be even more accurate after this. I am glad that you like yours so much and I'll pass on your thoughts to my brother-in-law who is also interested in this model but doesn't want the expense of getting the Apex trigger kit. Thanks again for your reply. Regards, Jim.

 

[Wicchunter]

Wicchunter, I feel your frustration. For me, the travel in the trigger wasn't the problem because I always knew where it is going to break. But once I got there it just felt too heavy. I received a S&W return label too but I've since decided to get the Apex FFS trigger kit. I haven't had problems with accuracy and love the gun so maybe I'm looking to get closer to perfection. I know that S&W will reduce the trigger pull but since the Apex trigger will also reduce the travel in the trigger, I've decided to cure both. I have noticed that on Apex's site that they do sell a sear separately and I believe it is supposed to move the breakpoint forward so you might want to research that. Good luck and let us know how the S&W repair turns out. Regards, Jim

Thanks Jim, if they fix the accuracy issue I'll be happy. If they fix the trigger also that would be great but I think I'll probably go the route you are going. Good luck with the install and can't wait to hear the results.
Joe

 

[Magload]

I pick mine back up today had the smith at the range move my Apex comp. kit from my 40 to the new 9 Pro. Will be running some rounds through her in a couple of hours.

 

[Elliot45]

Magload, how did you like the Apex trigger kit in your .40?

 

[LG S&W 1911]

Great forum, great thread, so joined a minute ago. Been lurking this forum since getting my MP9 Pro Series CORE. I used my Wheeler gauge and found my trigger pull weight at over 6 but less than 7 pounds. This is my first 9mm and first polymer gun. I've only owned revolvers (in the past) along with 1911s past and present.

After reading about these triggers here, I decided to opt for the Apex parts. My triggers on my 1911s are all 4#s +/- with little pre and over travel. I don't care to send the gun back to SW, and wait and then only get a lesser trigger pull. I'd still have the gross pre travel.

So, ordered up the one piece polymer trigger, competition spring kit and the hard sear. When I get these I'll install the trigger (for the shortened travel) and sear (for a lighter trigger pull weight) and see how that works. Will see what this does for trigger pull weight before installing the competition spring kit. I don't want to go too light.

Thanks for all your input here. Very helpful. Glad to be a member. lg