Trigger Pull pounds

[Cheetah85]

Hello all! I just bought a S&W Model 19-4 Nickel with a 2.5" barrel. (I have the box) The trigger seems pretty hard to pull in DA. It measured at 9.1lbs. In SA it broke clean at 2lbs. 1st question, can the 9.1 lbs. in DA be lowered and not change the SA pull of 2lbs? Of course, this would be done by an expert gunsmith. 2nd This one has a red ramp front sight which I don't see on many. Does that change the value? Most have the Partridge front sight. All replies welcome and Thanks!!!

 

[scooter123]

IMO 9.1 lbs. is just perfect, it insures that the gun will fire with some of the hardest primers on the market. BTW, my experimenting has shown that Remington primers are the "hardest", not CCI as the Net would have you believe. BTW, if you want to feel a truly hard trigger just pick up a J Frame, weights in the 12 to 15 lbs. range are typical.

A will also note that a 2 lbs. Single Action trigger is too light. Try shooting a box using DA only and then after sending 40 or 50 rounds downrange try shooting one shot in single action. Caution, make sure you have the gun aimed at your target before bringing your trigger finger anywhere near the trigger. One you see what happens you'll understand why I prefer SA triggers in the 3 to 4 lbs. range. You'll also understand my cautioning you about finger placement.

 

[Protocall_Design]

The rebound spring is the main thing responsible for SA trigger pull. The mainspring is mainly responsible for DA trigger pull. If you keep the same rebound spring and back off on the mainspring strain screw, you can probably get where you want to go. A heavier rebound spring will give a heavier SA pull, etc.

You can back off the strain screw to find where the gun fires your primers reliably, hook a trigger pull gage under the hammer and measure the ounces of hammer pull just as it lifts off the frame, record that number, then shorten a strain screw to give the same setting, or take it out and blue Loctite it and screw it back in to that setting. With the blue, you can make adjustments any time you want with the screwdriver.

 

[Hondo44]

2nd This one has a red ramp front sight which I don't see on many. Does that change the value? Most have the Partridge front sight. All replies welcome and Thanks!!!

The 6" model usually has the Patridge (not paRtridge) front sight. The 2 1/2", 3", and 4" have Baughman guick draw frame front sight blades. And could be ordered with the red insert from the factory. When it is, the rear sight blade has a white outline notch. Does yours have that?

 

[Cheetah85]

Yes, it does have the adjustable White Outline sight at the rear. Is the red ramp sight more scare? I have a 66-1 that has the same front and rear sight. I liked that and waited to find a 19 with the same. My eyes aren't as good as they used to be, so they work well for me.

 

[Hondo44]

Well then it's highly likely the gun came that way from the factory. Congrats,

 

[chief38]

9 pounds DA and 2 pounds SA is actually quite light for a S&W Revolver. Just make sure ALL ammo brands and Primers are completely reliably.

If all checks out OK, I certainly would not go lighter.

 

[Cheetah85]

Thanks to all who replied! Hondo, is the red ramp more or less desirable? Would it be considered scarce??

 

[reddog81]

I just Googled Smith and Wesson 19-4 and looked at the images. About half of the non-Patridge sight guns have the red insert. I think the red ramp is a personal preference and doesn't have much of an impact on value.

I try and avoid the red ramp or the newer guns with fiber optics. If I purchase one I hit the sight with black graphite spray to turn it matte black.

FWIW a 9 lbs trigger pull is pretty light and probably has already had some trigger work.

 

[Hondo44]

No impact on value, it was more usual than not from the factory therefore desirable.

But an after the factory added sight insert would have a bit of negative impact on value to collectors.