Trigger pull too light

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I'd put a Massachusetts Compliant trigger spring in it. Massachusetts requires a 10 pound trigger pull. S&W achieves that requirement with a couple of different parts used together. The MA trigger spring alone will give you around a 6.5 - 7.0 pound pull.

 

[Chubbo]

Talk

Poorly trained? It could be said that anyone lacking ability to fire a double-action handgun is poorly trained since they don't understand how to pull a trigger. I believe Massad Ayoob has said something very similar to that. Mas also installs NY triggers in all his carry Glocks. Is he compensating for being poorly trained or perhaps could he possibly understand the realities of real-world defense scenarios a little better than most.

And what does proper training consist of? How many on this forum have it? Like I stated in post #25, real-world defense encounters have very little in common with what most people do at range. That fact is very easily learned studying video footage of actual events, but especially by engaging in Force-on-Force training training. All those precise movements and picture perfect stances quickly go out the window. Many find all those repetitions they did to build "muscle memory" simply don't apply. It's much like the karate black belt who believes he is well prepared after having spent years honing his skills in the dojo only to find out the hard way that much of what he learned isn't effective in the street.

Mister X:
I would like to compliment you on your Talents, both as a orator, and an author. You have the ability to compose, and say very little, while using great numbers of words words while doing it, and also, to contradict yourself, in the process. They are talents, most of us can never hope to achieve. As for using, Massad Ayoob, as an example, it's my opinion, that he has great marketing talent, and modifies his "Hoopla", to fit what is popular, and what the market wants to hear at the time. I maintain my opinion, on limiting the our entire society, because of the abilities of a few people lacking skill.

Chubbo

 

[Mister X]

Mister X:
I would like to compliment you on your Talents, both as a orator, and an author. You have the ability to compose, and say very little, while using great numbers of words words while doing it, and also, to contradict yourself, in the process. They are talents, most of us can never hope to achieve. As for using, Massad Ayoob, as an example, it's my opinion, that he has great marketing talent, and modifies his "Hoopla", to fit what is popular, and what the market wants to hear at the time. I maintain my opinion, on limiting the our entire society, because of the abilities of a few people lacking skill.


Chubbo

Or perhaps you simply don't understand what I wrote and why you feel the need to insult. If you've never engaged in Force-on-Force training and your experience is limited to static square range practice, then that would most likely be the case.

 

[Rastoff]

Because I don't want to shoot someone if I don't have to.

No one does. Only psychopaths want to kill people. Us normal people just want to stop the threat.

An example would be someone walking towards you with a knife or metal pipe in their hand. You draw your weapon and command them to stop, but they keep coming. When they get to a certain point, I'm going to point my weapon at them since they could suddenly accelerate their advance and there will be little time to react, plus I know it may take multiple shots to stop them before they reach me.

And if you were to shoot them at the point where you felt it necessary to actually put your sights on them, you would be justified. Trigger weight not an issue.

Another example would be confronting an intruder in the home. Some sort of standoff situation where he's not advancing or attacking, but refuses to leave. I'd keep my gun pointed at him the whole time until police arrive.

Again, if they broke into my home and I shot them, it's justified. If I felt the need to hold them, I could do it while at the ready.

Now, I agree that a 2oz trigger is far too light. Indeed, you could draw, point in and the bad guy starts running. No legal or moral reason to shoot at that point (assuming he's not attacking someone else). However, a 3lb trigger is enough to not accidentally press it when you don't want to. Further, if it's not, a 5lb, 6lb or 7lb trigger isn't going to stop you either.

 

[Chubbo]

Understanding

Or perhaps you simply don't understand what I wrote and why you feel the need to insult. If you've never engaged in Force-on-Force training and your experience is limited to static square range practice, then that would most likely be the case.

Mister X:
No insult was intended, just a statement of fact. I've probably had as much training in my eighty+ years of shooting, as you'v had. I merely wondered if, given the magnitude of, and the many branches, angles, and the possible scenarios in your coverage, if even you, understand all that you wrote? Now, before this friendly discussion, becomes a argument, I will, Consider myself reprimanded, drop out of it, and say no more.

Chubbo