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I am not a horse racing fan, but I am a sports fan. I will be pulling for California Chrome to win the Belmont to become the first Triple Crown winner since 1978.

I just heard that the owners of California Chrome paid $9500. It is now worth more than $10 million. I assume that figure will go up if he wins today.

Will he win??
 
Ditto, not necessarily a racing fan but am watching and pulling for the California Chrome horse. Just seems like we need a feel good story.
 
I've about given up hoping to see a Triple Crown winner, but it would thrill me if this colt does it.

I don't think he's ever raced at Belmont before, which could weigh against him.

We'll know in a very few minutes!
 
Ben_hutcherson said:
I was pulling for Chrome to win, but was disappointed at the "sour grapes" attitude from the owners after the race.
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But he did have a point he just shouldn't have shown it on TV, take it up with the Racing Commission. The winner Tonalist didn't have enough points to run in the Derby or the Preakness, but was allowed in the Belmont all prepped and rested for the longer race. CC had three grueling races in 5 weeks. He was implying the winner was a prepped "ringer" I think. Who knows the real story?
 
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Ben_hutcherson said:
I was pulling for Chrome to win, but was disappointed at the "sour grapes" attitude from the owners after the race.
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Call it "sour grapes" but the owner was correct, in that, in the past few years, there have been too many winners of the Belmont, who either hadn't raced in the Preakness, or didn't run any Triple Crown races at all. To win the Triple Crown, the horse has to win three major races in five weeks. Tonalist hadn't raced in any of the prior Triple Crown Races. I don't think California Chrome had a target on his back, just too many fresh horses running against him.

The owners had a point. Enter the Triple Crown for all three races, and no new horses after the Derby. Today, there were only three horses which had raced in the prior Triple Crown series.

The racing stock is also quite a bit more dilute. There aren't a lot of thoroughbreds that have the quality of a Secretariat. Before Secretariat, the last Triple Crown winner was Citation, in 1948. I've seen the films of Citation, and he was a great horse.

PS - I was at the Derby when Secretariat won. Big Red was, by far, the finest horse that I've ever seen (IMHO).
 
Dennis The B said:
Call it "sour grapes" but the owner was correct, in that, in the past few years, there have been too many winners of the Belmont, who either hadn't raced in the Preakness, or didn't run any Triple Crown races at all. To win the Triple Crown, the horse has to win three major races in five weeks. Tonalist hadn't raced in any of the prior Triple Crown Races. I don't think California Chrome had a target on his back, just too many fresh horses running against him.

The owners had a point. Enter the Triple Crown for all three races, and no new horses after the Derby. Today, there were only three horses which had raced in the prior Triple Crown series.

The racing stock is also quite a bit more dilute. There aren't a lot of thoroughbreds that have the quality of a Secretariat. Before Secretariat, the last Triple Crown winner was Citation, in 1948. I've seen the films of Citation, and he was a great horse.

PS - I was at the Derby when Secretariat won. Big Red was, by far, the finest horse that I've ever seen (IMHO).
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I don't disagree with his point, and it's certainly no surprise as he's made similar statements about how horses should run all the races in the past few weeks leading up to the race.

I was just disappointed that-however valid his point may be-he chose to voice it at that particular time. It very much came across to me as being a sore loser.
 
Ughhhh what a dissapointment.

Off to the dog food factory for California Chrome! ;) :D :cool:
 
Classless comments made by co-owner Coburn. There is no question that three major stakes races in five weeks is a very difficult task but that is why we don't have a Triple Crown Winner every other year. Mr Coburn would look a lot better tonight if he had lost with some grace instead of coming off like the name of his organization. (Du-- As-.)
 
Still waiting for comments from the horse...

"I got some dirt kicked up in my eyes around the first turn.I fell back a little.What the heck did that #5 horse eat before the race? The flatulence made me so dizzy I couldn't see straight.Those nasal strips made it even worse!"
 
^ No I don't think so.

I bet he's busy trying to think of a way out of the Alpo factory!
 
they say they have had the same rules since day one, sorry we didnt see a triple crown winner. but thats life on the track lots of horses and there all winners in my book or they would not be there sorry the owner had to be that way
 
Dennis The B said:
Call it "sour grapes" but the owner was correct, in that, in the past few years, there have been too many winners of the Belmont, who either hadn't raced in the Preakness, or didn't run any Triple Crown races at all. To win the Triple Crown, the horse has to win three major races in five weeks. Tonalist hadn't raced in any of the prior Triple Crown Races. I don't think California Chrome had a target on his back, just too many fresh horses running against him.

The owners had a point. Enter the Triple Crown for all three races, and no new horses after the Derby. Today, there were only three horses which had raced in the prior Triple Crown series.

The racing stock is also quite a bit more dilute. There aren't a lot of thoroughbreds that have the quality of a Secretariat. Before Secretariat, the last Triple Crown winner was Citation, in 1948. I've seen the films of Citation, and he was a great horse.

PS - I was at the Derby when Secretariat won. Big Red was, by far, the finest horse that I've ever seen (IMHO).
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The owner is a sore loser. He needs to remember that thy broke their own rules to allow the horse to race. The horse should not have been allowed to race at all. The owner neehds to grow up. The horse wouldn't have run a single race let alone win one wihout the implants that allowed him to breath easier, an advantage the other horses he raced against didn't have.
 
I'm probably in a minority but I thought it was nice that a guy actually spoke his mind and answered the stupid reporter's question. Yes he said some things that sound like sour grapes, but remember HIS horse just lost a huge race that would have made history. I don't think it made him any less "classy", in fact I get tired of the politically correct BS answers most people throw out. I'm going to cut the guy some slack and say he was caught up in the emotion of just watching his horse lose a huge race and he answered with that emotion.

I do think he has a point about how it was sad that so many horses had all the time off and rest and his horse had been running races. I would like to see the same horses in a race after ALL of them have had the same amount of rest. I'd be willing to bet Tonolist wouldn't win again. I saw California Chrome run the Kentucky Derby on TV and that horse looked way faster and had a longer stride than the one that finished fourth.
 
I'm not a big horse racing fan, but it seems like if the rules are the same for everyone, how can you complain after a loss?

Did Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, and the other TC winners only race against horses that ran all three races? :confused:
 
Jack Flash said:
I'm not a big horse racing fan, but it seems like if the rules are the same for everyone, how can you complain after a loss?

Did Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, and the other TC winners only race against horses that ran all three races? :confused:
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Because of the purse money involved, and no limits as to what horse can enter a particular race, it's unlikely that you'll get a lot of horses running in all three races. Three races in five weeks is a pretty stout test. If I remember correctly, there was a relatively fresh field which ran against Secretariat. However, he was so dominant, that they could have run sprint cars against him, and he would have won. :) :) :)

I believe that a lot of it comes down to the fact that the thoroughbred stock is far more diluted, and that the existing stock is nowhere near the quality of the horses in the 1970's, and prior.

It's really a question of numbers and doing the math. For instance, Secretariat has a huge number of horses following in his blood line. However, with each generation, an ensuing stud, breeding with a different mare, the odds of getting another Secretariat-like horse are so remote, as to never happen again.

Secretariat was an anomaly - size, strength, and speed.
 
I don't think ol' CC has to worry about becoming Alpo. Just winning the Derby & Preakness should assure him of a long happy career of servicing young (hopefully attractive) lady horses.
 
therevjay said:
I don't think ol' CC has to worry about becoming Alpo. Just winning the Derby & Preakness should assure him of a long happy career of servicing young (hopefully attractive) lady horses.
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I think to keep things family-friendly, we would say "dating" young lady horses. :D

I think I read somewhere that the owners paid $8,000 for CC. Now he is worth millions. No one begrudges them that. They took the risk, they reap the reward. :)

Just don't cry in your beer about how unfair it all is! :o
 
ladyT said:
The horse wouldn't have run a single race let alone win one wihout the implants that allowed him to breath easier, an advantage the other horses he raced against didn't have.
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Implants? It was a "Breath Right" strip. Used by NFL players and millions of snorers; stick on, peel off.
 
Geno44 said:
Classless comments made by co-owner Coburn. There is no question that three major stakes races in five weeks is a very difficult task but that is why we don't have a Triple Crown Winner every other year. Mr Coburn would look a lot better tonight if he had lost with some grace instead of coming off like the name of his organization. (Du-- As-.)
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I thought that Bob Costas asking the winning owner to comment on Coburn's words was even more classless. An unusual gaffe by Costas.

Coburn's words were no different than Richard Sherman immediately after the Super Bowl. If your blood isn't up in those moment then you are dead.
 
I just seen Colburn make a very full and sincere apology as I ever had seen in my life. There is a man! I know nothing about horses or horse racing nor am I a fan of it. The man fully impressed me this morning. Maybe because he looks like a identical twin to my father in law. I thought the same as everyone else when he first made his losing remarks.
 
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