TRR8

[mike campbell]

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Smith and Wesson;s use of the multi-piece tensioned barrel has created one of the most accurate revovers ever to be shipped from Springfield. .....

I'm curious whether this is from your own experience? Have you concluded that from actual comparison it to other S&W's you own?

I ask because your assessment is in stark contrast to the American Rifleman review which says "The TRR8 shot well in drills and, as shown in the accompanying
accuracy table, from the bench." But the accompanying table shows the results of 15, 5-shot groups with an average of 3" @ 25 yds. The single best group shot was over 2"....in my book, that's abysmal accuracy for a revolver....or mediocre shooting for a fella with a good revolver.

OTOH, a writer for Guns and Ammo scoped one and managed 2" groups at 50 yds. I'd call that acceptable.

Again, just curious about your personal experience.

 

[Harbinger_of_lead]

I have a R8 (similar to the TRR8) that has about 1,500 rounds through it. I discovered last night that the barrel shroud nut is loose. I started another thread about it before seeing this one.

Here it is: M&P R8 loose Barrel Shroud Nut

I am contemplating tightening the nut with the aforementioned tool purchased online. I will update the forum with my decision.

 

[Mr.Lee]

I have a R8 (similar to the TRR8) that has about 1,500 rounds through it. I discovered last night that the barrel shroud nut is loose. I started another thread about it before seeing this one.

Here it is: M&P R8 loose Barrel Shroud Nut

I am contemplating tightening the nut with the aforementioned tool purchased online. I will update the forum with my decision.

Have you noticed a change in accuracy from the barrel loosing?

 

[Harbinger_of_lead]

Have you noticed a change in accuracy from the barrel loosing?

I can't say that I did. Truth be told, it has been a couple of months since I shot it last (I have been shooting my new .460), and I did not notice the loose nut until last night when I was replacing the "around the house" ammunition with some fresh gold dots.

The last time I shot it, there was no problems with accuracy - same as always. It has always been an accurate shooter. But I can't really say that it was any more/less accurate than my other S&W revolvers.

 

[Groo01]

Hey Groo,

Did you have to upgrade your sights to hit 100 yards? I normally shoot up old computer hard drives that I grab out of recycling at work. About the same size as Clay. But you don't have to replace them after each hit. At 100 yards the front sight is much larger then the target. When I get a hit I feel its more luck then skill. At about 50-60 yards I'm getting about 80% hits. Good, bad, I don't know. But I feel like with a lot more practice I can do better. At least that's what I tell myself. Hehe. Any further and the sights cover up the target too much. Any advise?

Thanks

Groo here
Shoot the gun/load at a closer range [ even 7 yds]
Compare the group to the with of the front sight [ It should be smaller]
The front sight can be used to gage if your gun CAN group tight enough
at distance.
My Python will group inside the front sight [blade] and covers a mansized
target at 300yds [ I got 3 out of 5 hits]
If the front bead more than covers the target you could miss ,If not and
and your load groups inside the bead ,your miss!!!!!!!
Ps. I use a zeiss red dot that about matches a clay bird.

 

[Uraldriver]

My TRR8 is currently at S&W for the loose barrel nut issue, I asked them to give the gun a thorough going over. As much as these beasts cost I don't think it should happen.

I still love my revolver and miss it because it is my go to snowshoe and winter hiking gun. I want to use it predator calling so I hope it comes back soon!

 

[colt_saa]

I'm curious whether this is from your own experience? Have you concluded that from actual comparison it to other S&W's you own?

I ask because your assessment is in stark contrast to the American Rifleman review which says "The TRR8 shot well in drills and, as shown in the accompanying
accuracy table, from the bench." But the accompanying table shows the results of 15, 5-shot groups with an average of 3" @ 25 yds. The single best group shot was over 2"....in my book, that's abysmal accuracy for a revolver....or mediocre shooting for a fella with a good revolver.

OTOH, a writer for Guns and Ammo scoped one and managed 2" groups at 50 yds. I'd call that acceptable.

Again, just curious about your personal experience.

It sounds like you are saying that what the American Rifleman said "The TRR8 shot well in drills and, as shown in the accompanying accuracy table, from the bench" you refer to as "abysmal accuracy for a revolver"

If you also feel that 2" groups at 50 yards from a hand gun is only acceptable, then whose revolvers do you consider to be accurate firearms?

 

[Harbinger_of_lead]

My barrel shroud wrench showed up in the mail today. 3 minutes later, the nut was good n tight. I figure that was a good way to go, and I don't see why it should have to go back to s&w for an easy torque of a nut.

I will take it to the range this weekend and put 100 rounds through it to see how she shoots now. Probably will re torque when she is hot.

 

[mazer]

So, with a Dan Wesson, you also have a spacer that you insert between the barrel and the cylinder face so you leave a "gap", does EWK offer one of those too since technically you could unscrew the barrel off the frame if you really wanted to. I have bought a few tools from Eric at EWK and was just wondering. I've been considering a TRR8...not sure why...but I have!

 

[colt_saa]

So, with a Dan Wesson, you also have a spacer that you insert between the barrel and the cylinder face so you leave a "gap", does EWK offer one of those too since technically you could unscrew the barrel off the frame if you really wanted to. I have bought a few tools from Eric at EWK and was just wondering. I've been considering a TRR8...not sure why...but I have!

The tool that you are referring to is a Feeler Gauge.

The Dan Wesson revolvers of yesteryear included one that was .006 thick.

It is unusual to find individual feeler gauges.

However sets are commonly available in the big tool stores. A set will be anywhere from 6-32 gauges all on one little tool that lets you flip them out one at a time. The common sets are perhaps $6 or so dollars

There are also high end sets that run up to $100

Just make sure the one you buy is in the size range for B/C gaps like the one shown in the above photo courtesy of Amazon.Com

There is no need to buy the expensive set.

 

[Macinaw]

So, with a Dan Wesson, you also have a spacer that you insert between the barrel and the cylinder face so you leave a "gap", does EWK offer one of those too since technically you could unscrew the barrel off the frame if you really wanted to. I have bought a few tools from Eric at EWK and was just wondering. I've been considering a TRR8...not sure why...but I have!

Why would you want to remove the barrel? The tool it for just tightening the nut that holds on the barrel shroud.

 

[mike campbell]

It sounds like you are saying that what the American Rifleman said "The TRR8 shot well in drills and, as shown in the accompanying accuracy table, from the bench" you refer to as "abysmal accuracy for a revolver"

If you also feel that 2" groups at 50 yards from a hand gun is only acceptable, then whose revolvers do you consider to be accurate firearms?

An average of 3" at 25 yds? I've witnessed many 2" barreled belly guns do better than that. Sandbags are never the last word in handgun accuracy, even with an excellent shooter. Likely the gun is much better than that and the tester is a mediocre shot. If the best that guy can do is 3" @ 25 yds, American Rifleman needs to give him a Ransom rest....or a new job. In any event, it 's not a worthy testament.

Since you made the bold statement "Smith and Wesson;s use of the multi-piece tensioned barrel has created one of the most accurate revolvers ever to be shipped from Springfield." I thought you must have contradictory experience you'd share....like accuracy testing against other, non-tensioned S&W's that showed the TRR8 to be superior. But it sounds like you're OK with 3" groups @ 25 yds.

My comment about acceptable accuracy is not brand-specific. I've witnessed scoped revolvers (like the one G&A writer used) made by S&W, Dan Wesson and Colt shoot 5-shot groups of 2" @ 100 yds. I've witnessed groups fired with iron sights @ 200 meters that I won't recount except with shooters who have seen similar things.

Nice photography, BTW.

 

[iPac]

If you also feel that 2" groups at 50 yards from a hand gun is only acceptable, then whose revolvers do you consider to be accurate firearms?

My scoped 6" Python that can group .75" off a rest at 50yds. We all know I'm a little bias when it comes to Colts, but I would say Pythons made right are probably the most accurate US made revolver.

Claims and opinions on the internet should treated as such, claims and opinions based on personal preference or belief. Mine is no different.

I doubt anyone can confirm what the most accurate revolver ever made was.

 

[mazer]

Why would you want to remove the barrel? The tool it for just tightening the nut that holds on the barrel shroud.

Well...it's not that I WOULD remove the barrel, but I guess knowing I COULD do it leaves some possibilities open...like if I wanted another barrel with a different twist...just thinking! I know..very dangerous!