TulAmmo at Walmart

[djm]

Anyone know anything about this stuff?

It's at my Walmart for about $13 per 50ct, 180gr FMJ in .40SW. I tried a box yesterday along with my usual Fed 180. It's Russian made with steel case. It had almost no felt recoil at all.

I only had about 50 rounds through my M&P40c prior to yesterday, but I noticed a couple times that I could actually see and feel the slide cycling like it was in slow-motion. It was pretty bizarre. I'm wondering if it was the ammo or what. It happened several times with the TulAmmo, and only once with the Feds. I stripped it down immediately to see if something was out of place, but I didn't see anything.

I looked at their ballistics chart, and I noticed that the energy at 10yards is only 216 ft-lbs. Is that low enough to inhibit the efficient cycling of the slide?

Any ideas?

 

[Titegroups]

Tula is a city in Russia where firearms have been manufactured for a long time, they also produce ammo and components there, I would say the ammo Wallyworld sold you is some steel cased junk from there, sounds like put the absolute min. amount of powder they could in each round and missed a few. I'm sure .40S&W is not a cartridge they are familiar with in russia so they probably load it up with a 9mm charge of powder, of coarse if they were too light on the powder it won't cycle the slide. Thanks Walmart for another quality product, seems like everything you buy there is junk.

 

[DLL10mm]

Just watch for squibs.....

 

[silverbear123]

Saw it but won't use it. Comments on other forums echo what titegroups said.

 

[A320graham]

orrid stuff

Cor Blimey Guvnor that Ammo is terrible.
Mind you I bought a box of Blazer .40 on Friday and had three duds out of that.
Did not even go PHUT!!

 

[MotorCityGun]

Bought one box the other day but haven't tried them out yet. If I get time tomorrow, I'll try the whole box (of 50) and report out. I would expect (now that I've read the other posts) that I'm going to get what I paid for, but I'm not too worried about it as these are only (cheap) practice rounds. I would never carry them.

 

[GatorFarmer]

I'd suggest contacting Smith and Wesson customer service and asking whether or not they get the willies at the idea of steel cased ammo being used in their guns. Sig Sauer and Colt certainly do.

 

[Harrison]

I'd suggest contacting Smith and Wesson customer service and asking whether or not they get the willies at the idea of steel cased ammo being used in their guns. Sig Sauer and Colt certainly do.

Wonder why? Steel cased ammo should not hurt the firearm. It is very mild and soft steel. Even the U.S. military has and is currently using steel cases for some ammo. "Get the willies about shooting steel cased ammo in their guns", I bet they also get the willies about shooting handloads in their guns. Its more a liability/lawyer thing than it is about steel cased ammo actually hurting the firearm.

 

[Harrison]

RE: Forgot to mention that some Nato 9mm is steel cased. Are you suggesting that a S&W will not digest Nato standard ammo 9mm?

 

[GatorFarmer]

Wonder why? Steel cased ammo should not hurt the firearm. It is very mild and soft steel. Even the U.S. military has and is currently using steel cases for some ammo. "Get the willies about shooting steel cased ammo in their guns", I bet they also get the willies about shooting handloads in their guns. Its more a liability/lawyer thing than it is about steel cased ammo actually hurting the firearm.

The Sig customer service reps, via email and in person at a trade show, looked aghast at the suggestion that I'd put Russsian ammo in one of their guns. Poor QC and inability to get satisfaction if the ammo failed were the closest that I could get to pinpointed reasons. I had the email saved for a long time where I was told it would void my warranty.

CMMG also specifically voids warranties if steel cased ammo is used.

I can't speculate as to their reasons, I only know what I was told when I asked directly.

 

[MotorCityGun]

Bought one box the other day but haven't tried them out yet. If I get time tomorrow, I'll try the whole box (of 50) and report out. I would expect (now that I've read the other posts) that I'm going to get what I paid for, but I'm not too worried about it as these are only (cheap) practice rounds. I would never carry them.

Well, went to the range I regularly shoot at and when the friendly lady behind the counter asked me what kind of ammo I was using, I told her. She said that this ammo (among others) is banned from their range. She said that there have been reports of guns exploding using this stuff due to the lacquer used to seal the bullet, and that firing this ammo in your pistol would, essentially, void/negate any warranty you had with the OEM. As I mentioned, she was friendly, but she was firm about even allowing this in their range and held onto the box until I was done. Since federal law prohibits the return of ammo, I guess I'm stuck with this box and I've learned a ($13) lesson about buying cheap stuff at the W-mart. Someone such as Smith and Wesson, or other reputable OEM, should inform W-mart about this.

 

[vista461]

She 's full of it. If it has a steel core bullet I could see them not wanting it on an indoor range, but its not going to void your warranty or blow up because of the lacquer on the case, its there to keep the steel case from corroding.

 

[texanfan]

The range gal was just making sure you were shooting reloadable brass....I just can't believe how much of this they are stocking at wally world. I bought the last two megapacks of UMC remington in .40 locally available for the time being, and they keep stocking more of this stuff. While I agree with the notion that this stuff lacks quality, we commonly shoot non-corrosive 55g .223 in steel for plinking fun because we are on our on property, and don't want to pickup brass out of the manure all over the place. If you can shoot it someplace, and clean your guns - there's nothing wrong with cheap plinking ammo.

 

[Deadeye Dick]

... If it has a steel core bullet I could see them not wanting it on an indoor range,

Well it actually might... sort of. If the bullet jacket is listed as "bimetal" on the carton it is a steel jacketed bullet with a copper wash. There have been reports of these types of bullets ricocheting and/or damaging backstops at some ranges. This is the reason bimetal bullets are banned at a lot of indoor ranges... has nothing to do with the cases what-so-ever.

 

[firebirdude]

I was just coming on here to ask about this ammo. I saw it in Wally World today, but decided against it. My Wally World carries Federal, so I picked up a few boxes of that (~$10.47 / 50 of 9mm) and a 100pack of Winchester just for fun (~$23.97 /100 of 9mm). Didn't have a single jam/misfire in the whole lot. Maybe I'll give the TulAmmo a whirl next time LOL

 

[djm]

I was just coming on here to ask about this ammo. I saw it in Wally World today, but decided against it. My Wally World carries Federal, so I picked up a few boxes of that (~$10.47 / 50 of 9mm) and a 100pack of Winchester just for fun (~$23.97 /100 of 9mm). Didn't have a single jam/misfire in the whole lot. Maybe I'll give the TulAmmo a whirl next time LOL

Yeah....I think I'm just gonna steer clear of the TulAmmo from now on, and stick with the Federals. I really didn't like the slow-mo slide action.

On the other hand, the complete absence of recoil was a somewhat nice touch. And I did manage to keep a two inch group at 10 yards with my first five rounds or so. After she started getting squirrelly I let my group grow.

 

[Rooski41]

Range report on the Tul .40

I ran 100 rounds through my M&P 40c. I had 1 FTF and 2 Slow-mo slide rounds. Take it for what it's worth......