Two empty cases and a moon clip

[mstuhr]

Howdy,
I took delivery of a couple of new style bullets to try for the 25-2.
I loaded up a couple of different loads, got a break in the weather and blasted off early today to make a trip to the range.
I shot a rifle a little before the wind got up and went over to the bullseye range to test the new .45 ammo.
Well, no moon clips. They are stored with the ammo I normally use at home.
When I got home I decided to store a moon clip and couple of empty cases in the gun so I don't get caught out with out one in the future.
I should have more data to post in the 25-2 accuracy thread soon but bad weather is setting in and Christmas will keep me busy so it might be after New Years day before I post anything there.
Hope some one can use the moon clip tip and Merry Christmas everyone!
Mike

 

[handejector]

You can shoot without them. I usually do, finding it faster to punch empties with a pencil than moon and demoon.
You do need to taper crimp, though.

 

[Willeys]

If the cases are sized correctly, I believe the case will head space on the case mouth.

 

[Oldherkpilot]

The owner's manual for all the new 625s direct that clips be used. Not sure when they began this policy, but I found out when a fellow came back and said he had several fail-to-fires when he skipped the clips with his new Smith. This was about three years ago.
I also read an article from a reliable (but no longer memorable!) source who had done some accuracy testing in regards to using/not using clips and he found a significant improvement in grouping when clips were used. I have not found the correlation myself, but the way I shoot, it comes as no surprise!
I still shoot without them on a regular basis, but thought I should pass along what I have found.
Shoot straight and good luck.

 

[mstuhr]

Thanks

Hi Folks,
Thanks,
I am trying to keep things somewhat constant in the way I'm testing loads. Now I have another thing to try. Will the 25-2 shoot the same with or with out moon clips?
I did shoot the loads I had today, one was poor, the other showed promise for 8 rounds out of ten in a pretty good group with two way out. (mother of all fliers).
This gun shoots pretty good but it is very particular to the bullets it likes.
Known loads I use in my bullseye guns won't shoot groups at all in this gun. Hard ball or hard cast bullets have not done well. The one load I shot today was a hard cast that I need to work with a little more before I give up on it.
Also, from what I read the type of moon clip can even make a difference in group size. Some folks recommending Rimz over steel.
Anyway,thanks for the advice. I had been posting some 25-2 info in the 1961-1980 threads. That is where I thought I left this post. The older I get the dumber I get. There are times I can't believe they let me out of the house with a gun or a car.
Thanks again
Mike

 

[sheriffoconee]

reason 3, 127 I keep all my guns loaded...

 

[H Richard]

Mike, I've used the 25-2 without moon clips, and fine no difference in how the rounds shoot. I prefer to use the clips, but SWC bullets are sometimes a pain to load with the moon clips. My 25-2 seems to shoot best with hardball consistently. After the firswt of the year I plan to try some of the Magnus bullets you mentioned, the swagged ones. I've read somewhere that swagged bullets tend to group better in the 25-, as most of them have larger cylinder throats. Mine seem to be .455.