Jim PHL
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Went to my LGS in search of a used 4506 or 4566 (or any other 3rd gen that caught my eye!). They didn't have either but I came home with a LNIB M&P9c. I generally don't go for polymer guns (did not own any until last night) but this is one I have been considering for a while and I got a deal I couldn't refuse.
1- I usually use the slide stop lever on my autos to release a locked-back slide on a fresh magazine. I do this with my 1911, my Hi-Power and my 3rd gen S+W's. Many advise against this practice. OK, I do it, you may not. It's not my intention that this as a general practice be the point of this thread, only as it specifically applies to the M&P. I did NOT do this with my new M&P last night because I tried and was unable to with normal pressure. I did not want to try to force it until I consulted the manual. The manual does not specifically address this issue. Has anyone asked S+W about this or have they published anything on it? (The manual does state, after inserting a loaded mag: "Pull the slide to the rear, press down on the slide stop to release the slide and allow it to carry fully forward. This strips a cartridge from the magazine and seats it in the chamber of the barrel.") Two things I note, 1st is they tell you to pull the slide to the rear AND press the slide stop. When the slide is locked back and you insert a loaded mag, you don't have to push down the stop, you only have to pull the slide back and release it. The other thing is they do not specifically tell us not to release the slide by simply pressing down the stop. I guess I am just unsure if they are designed to not allow this method or if mine is just a little stiff and maybe I could do this if I exerted a little more pressure.
2- The takedown procedure as described in the manual has you removing the "frame-tool" and using it to move the sear de-activation lever down into the magwell. Is it necessary to remove the frame tool if you are only going to use it to move the SDL or is it's only function holding the grip insert in place? When I'm cleaning my guns I have any number of items around I can use to move that lever. I have removed the tool because the manual tells me to but if it's only function is holding the insert in place and using it to move that SDL, I think I'll just leave it where it is all the time.
Looks like there is now another page on this forum I will have to frequent!Thanks in advance for replies. Shoot safe.
1- I usually use the slide stop lever on my autos to release a locked-back slide on a fresh magazine. I do this with my 1911, my Hi-Power and my 3rd gen S+W's. Many advise against this practice. OK, I do it, you may not. It's not my intention that this as a general practice be the point of this thread, only as it specifically applies to the M&P. I did NOT do this with my new M&P last night because I tried and was unable to with normal pressure. I did not want to try to force it until I consulted the manual. The manual does not specifically address this issue. Has anyone asked S+W about this or have they published anything on it? (The manual does state, after inserting a loaded mag: "Pull the slide to the rear, press down on the slide stop to release the slide and allow it to carry fully forward. This strips a cartridge from the magazine and seats it in the chamber of the barrel.") Two things I note, 1st is they tell you to pull the slide to the rear AND press the slide stop. When the slide is locked back and you insert a loaded mag, you don't have to push down the stop, you only have to pull the slide back and release it. The other thing is they do not specifically tell us not to release the slide by simply pressing down the stop. I guess I am just unsure if they are designed to not allow this method or if mine is just a little stiff and maybe I could do this if I exerted a little more pressure.
2- The takedown procedure as described in the manual has you removing the "frame-tool" and using it to move the sear de-activation lever down into the magwell. Is it necessary to remove the frame tool if you are only going to use it to move the SDL or is it's only function holding the grip insert in place? When I'm cleaning my guns I have any number of items around I can use to move that lever. I have removed the tool because the manual tells me to but if it's only function is holding the insert in place and using it to move that SDL, I think I'll just leave it where it is all the time.
Looks like there is now another page on this forum I will have to frequent!Thanks in advance for replies. Shoot safe.