U.S. CARBINE CAL. 30 M1 - Underwood Elliott Fisher Company

At one time I had close to 15 or 20 M1 Carbines, including two M1A1's. I had at least one from each manufacturer, plus some variations, and a lot of accouterments for the Carbines. Had one from Irwin-Pederson too.

My buddy and I collected them and put on displays at the Ohio Gun Collector's Shows. I finally got burned out and sold all of them. For what they are going for now, I kick myself when I think about it.:mad::(

I consider my humble collection of USGI M1 carbines to be a valuable asset to my retirement fund.

attachment.php
 

Attachments

  • M1 Carbine - Vault.jpg
    M1 Carbine - Vault.jpg
    27.3 KB · Views: 1,447
fun shooting my full auto M2 carbine down by the river. No web gear so just out for fun. The full auto capable M2's were all made by Inland. This one has a paratroop stock, which I believe was not standard on the M2's, so was added later by someone. Has a 30 rd magazine. I have my arm up because on full auto this rifle would tend to come off my shoulder because of the folding stock. About 6 or 7 years ago, I bought a really nice '44 Inland, must have been a DCM rifle, all the US rifles were rebuilt and upgraded, mine however did not have the bayonet lug or flip safety added. I reload and shoot it a lot. Great little guns. By the way, the mobster Bugsy Segal was kill in Vegas by an M1 carbine.

The OP's rifle looks to be un-modified, and undoubtedly worth a lot of money these days. Very hard to locate a rifle that did not go thru the postwar rebuild. More M1's were made than any other US issue rifle. There are some really good books about M1's, one of the best is "War Baby".

As usual, all the best, and stay safe.... SF VET

00114-s-r15amhu45a50114.jpg
 
Ok, don't shoot! :eek:
I've been called some really nasty names for this. But here's the M1 Carbine updated for the 21st Century. :rolleyes:

eOWxsbB.jpg

I've always liked the Paratroop stocks. SARCO had some very accurate repros. if it was mine - I'd put one on - then sell the plastic one. Perhaps all would be forgiven - & it would still be easy to store. I have a similar plastic CHOATE folder on my Ruger 10-22. Even though it is very functional - I'd been eyeing a carbine paratroop stock repro made for 10-22s - much better aesthetics.

I have a euro 9mm pistol caliber carbine clone of a swiss B&T - I prefer as a house gun for size & penetration properties.
 
I've got nine M1 carbines, but none in original configuration like this one. During a very long law enforcement career I often carried one of my carbines as a patrol rifle. I used two 30 round magazines clamped together. I never fired them on duty but I think a couple of times just getting one out of the cruiser helped settle things down. My uncle brought a Winchester carbine back from Normandy. He brought it home in a sea bag without the stock. He made a stock for it when he got home. He drove a bulldozer with the Navy Construction Battalion and carried the carbine in a holster on the bulldozer. My cousin hunted with it and killed quite a few deer with it. My cousin was killed in an auto accident in 1971 the the carbine was passed to his nephew who still has it. I offered him a lot of money for it but he won't sell it. Carbines are some of my favorite firearms.
 
M1 Carbine

Whenever I posted my WWII Tommy gun, references were made to "Combat", the 60's television series, which I didn't know. So I started watching it on internet. In addition to Sgt Saunders' Thompson, lots of M1 Carbines are featured in the show (as well as Garand and BAR).

I also recently scored 1900 rounds of cheap ammo.

a7f33110c209a7523bfa7378e1da23f9.jpg


So I started keeping an eye out for one and started learning about them. And as I am on a lucky streak these days, this little rifle popped up on the website of an LGS. He's been hit hard by restrictions related to Covid, especially at the range which is a big part of his business, and he is offloading lots of weapons with discounts to generate cash.

The gun has some patina but is in very nice condition and the bore is excellent. Price was $ 595.-

2a72e287893f8eed5b6cb7a0fd957ac9.jpg


1c866c40701c009b581777e99d82e8c8.jpg


It looks like it avoided the post war upgrades

f223ddc538e36fd4a28569cc2ff08734.jpg


c165624eddcbcd53f751afe1640e0046.jpg


60709dd59018ea00490b6d650f45796c.jpg


21627934611b0930b63bbbf09d925ab5.jpg


53d0c4fed46f99af235a94acdf75c39b.jpg


b21efd2e7484a43e807f300d83a60624.jpg


Barrel is marked (hard to photograph)

Underwood
2-44
Flaming bomb
"P" proof mark

6adaec9119d9ea60a87b4e8326d56f2d.jpg


Brigadier General Guy H. Drewry and Underwood Elliott Fisher initials with the crossed cannons

5614bb1d5303c186b90f7a4a69e21524.jpg


bb303d5f3e429ed2278dcf23abcd3557.jpg


54961ead69dacb0f2fbb3a80697f4a8b.jpg


I was allowed onto the range in order to test fire it

15 shots slow fire at 25 m standing

8ac306291182cc4fbe0e38396fae1333.jpg


Then 3 shots to the head slow fire and the rest in rapid fire, at 50 m standing

4b773072cdba5eb5c3abafc2e79af0ea.jpg


I think it'll fit very nicely in my small WWII U.S. weapons collection

S&W Victory

6b0aab0eff186e25940cbd8e55e57b1d.jpg


Colt 1911A1

f25b95c6b8c4d7bff093b0fe452a0b6c.jpg


Remington Rand 1911A1

53f6d3b9091816b13be10664230cda24.jpg


Thompson 1928A1

04c3f61ff9954f5cc6d913878a79886b.jpg


I'll need to take a family photo

After reading this, I need to get mine out and look it over. It is an Inland and in very nice condition. I had a Singer and foolishly sold it. They were purchased as home defense weapons and I never considered the collector value of them at the time. Plus, the price was right and they are my favorite rifles. They were cheap and plentiful back then.
I bought them both in 1974, just months apart, for $100 each, which was a good price back then, but unreal in today's market.
One day in 1979, the Inland was used to shoot digger squirrels on the run. That was a hoot. Yes, it is accurate enough to hit running squirrels. Last year, I scored 22 boxes of factory ammo for $10 a box.
The only other deal I've been able to get on rifles were the two free ones. A WWII Carcano in 6.35 and an 1878 Mauser .43 caliber single shot, bolt action. My new neighbor came over one day in 1976, said he knew I was into guns and the previous owner left a box of gun parts on the top shelf in the garage. He said if I wanted them, take them. The two rifles mentioned above were in the box, completely disassembled. It looked like a bunch of junk and there was no internet back then, so I muddled around with them and they appeared to have all the parts. There was some rust as the box was left open and no oil on the parts. I took all the metal parts, put them to a wire wheel and down to bare metal. Cold blued them all, came out pretty good for my first time. Sanded and stained both stocks and assembled them w/o any instructions.
Today, they are both fine shooters. The Carcano action is a bit rough, but usable.
Thanks for sharing your story.
 
Last edited:
Thank you for the very detailed photos of the M1. In the 7O's, every Detroit uniform patrol vehicle (Scout Car) had one and a High Standard 12g in a wood box in the trunk. The carbines had been obtained as military surplus. On Sunday day shift, each crew would clean and oil their long guns. I only fired it at the range, but deployed it on several take downs. Thanks for the memories.
 
From about 60 years ago here are my M2 Carbine @ Danang and Thompson @ PhuBai. I don't recall model, make, s/n, or anything else about them other than that the M2 Carbine was much lighter.
 

Attachments

  • VN_1962_DaNang_M2.jpg
    VN_1962_DaNang_M2.jpg
    112.1 KB · Views: 50
  • VN_1962_DaNang_Thompson.jpg
    VN_1962_DaNang_Thompson.jpg
    55.6 KB · Views: 49
Then you missed a few.

Does it matter ? Different forum have different people, not everyone follows multiple forums.

And you have the option to ignore said posts.

If you come up with a "for real" 1918 BAR I'm hopeful you'll post everywhere. Being in the US I'm pretty much relegated to the Ohio Ordnance semi version ....
 
Full Auto

You can buy a real 1918 BAR as long as it was registered before May 19,1986 and have the $$$$
I own a legal M16A1
Dave

If you come up with a "for real" 1918 BAR I'm hopeful you'll post everywhere. Being in the US I'm pretty much relegated to the Ohio Ordnance semi version ....
 
Ok, don't shoot! :eek:
I've been called some really nasty names for this. But here's the M1 Carbine updated for the 21st Century. :rolleyes:

eOWxsbB.jpg

You should be called names! That is no way to treat a US military Carbine (Now turn it back to original condition)
 

Latest posts

Back
Top