Ultimate Zombie Gun????

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The threads about the Brownells e-mail and Hornady's new packaging lead me to the question, what do you want in your bug out bag, if the undead come for you? Now as I understand things (I have been brief'd by several high school boys who know their stuff) Zombies are thin skinned and skulled, but can only be stopped by destruction of the brain. Simple decapitation will not do as the Zombie will pick up the head and continue on.

It seems to me the right zombie gun would be lightweight, allow for a high capacity mag., and of a lighter caliber. So lets hear it, get creative.....

(Based on some of the comments re the Brownells e mail I need to make the following disclaimer.... I in no way promote the senseless destruction of anything living or undead, this is for fun only..... Keep in mind zombies are very much like the dreaded Eastern Skeet, a scourge on the world, that must be stopped at all cost.)
 
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For starters. My 39-2 on a drop leg holster. And a 59 on my other leg with plenty of rounds. Field medical pack on my back and a sawd off 12 for that final moment when i need to blow my head off! Damn zombies aint gettin the pleasure of eatin me alive! Id gladly take any rifle as i dont have one. But ill make due without
 
I'd go with a pistol caliber high-capacity carbine. Only head shots count, so you only need enough power to get through the skull and into the brain.

My choice - MP5/10mm. Two 30 rd mags clipped together means a lot of dead undeads.
 
I'm new to this "zombie" craze (scary movies scare me) but I think sigp220.45 is dead-on.

However I want a pistol caliber that is loaded with a fast moving exploding type bullet so that a hit anywhere in the head turns the whole head into smushed canteloupe (I hate them too).
 
Well, I rather take my chances with this. Ammo is pricey but it is only money.
 

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^^^thats vampires silly, and we all know vampires are fake.

my AR in 5.56 is my choice. it will scramble your eggs and has 30 rounds before a reload, awesome recoil for follow ups and just looks scary to the liberals.

I have mag couplers so i have 60 rounds on my AR right now. my wife will have the 12 gauge. i will also have my sigma for back up during reloads and pee breaks.
 
^^^thats vampires silly, and we all know vampires are fake.

my AR in 5.56 is my choice. it will scramble your eggs and has 30 rounds before a reload, awesome recoil for follow ups and just looks scary to the liberals.

I have mag couplers so i have 60 rounds on my AR right now. my wife will have the 12 gauge. i will also have my sigma for back up during reloads and pee breaks.

Thanks for the info 9c1. Im glad I didnt buy any..
 
Eh. It depends on a number of factors. Are the zombies fast or slow moving? Or some of each? Are they simply humans infected with a disease (happened after the 1918 flu pandemic, look it up) to include bio warfare, strange parasites, nanites, or mutant rabies? Or all dead from any cause rising up everywhere? If diseased humans then what are the rules of engagement - ie diseased people now can spread TB or Hep yet you can't go around shooting them... Can the disease be cured, is it always fatal, how many people are immune, etc.

If you are trying to shoot man sized targets in the head, and trying to destroy the "essential" part of the brain, then you're talking about hitting a very small target under stress. (Targets to train snipers in this exist, the key point to hit is about the size of a dime.)

With a person suffering from sort of disease, assuming the rules of engagement allowed shooting them on sight, there's little reason to suspect that you'd actually have to shoot someone in the head. As in most things, destroying the brain would work more quickly, but they'd bleed out from a traumatic rifle wound to the chest, having a limb blown off etc.

A .308/7.62mm Nato rifle makes sense if one isn't going around playing at being light infantry. It will simply do a better job on man sized targets and cause more damage. (Modern 7.62mm ball ammo essentially duplicates the M2 .30-06 round fired in Garands during WW2 and Korea, an offering that no one seemed to complain about regarding its ability to deal with human sized targets.)

For less conventional origin zombies... Well it'd be expensive. You'd want a quality AR - LMT, Colt, Noveske, Barrett, etc. Then you'd want to modify it with several all important doo dads. The first is putting a registered suppressor on it and also owning another of the exact same model as a spare. No noise, no muzzle flash.

Next you get yourself a PVS-14 (yes other even more impressive sights can be had but they are even harder to get and fiendishly expensive, plus if zombies are dead a thermal sight might not work anyway). The almost 4 grand that you'll drop on your PVS, mounts, and accessories will essentially let you engage targets at night with a great deal of success. That your platform will be a suppressed rifle with the flash eliminated will make it all the more so.

You'll also need some sort of optic, ideally to work with the PVS 14. You could get one of the more expensive Eotechs (great for in close on moving targets), or try your luck with an Aimpoint, or get a top of the line Acog. Either way, you'll want to pair it with a dual laser aiming module. This will be on that has both an IR laser - that you see only with your night vision goggles on) that is zeroed to hit to the same point as a visible laser (for during the day and to simplify sighting the thing in).

Add ammo, mags, cleaning kits... A nice set of body armor with multi hit level IV rifle plates(because friendly fire isn't and humans will always be the real problem and not the zombies...) eh.... you're hitting about ten to twenty grand for your set up, esp once you figure in training.

About four grand will set a guy up with a "good enough" M4 clone or used Colt A2 type rifle, an Eagle universal chest rig, a set of Izzy body armor with rifle plates, and a used Kpot and put a nice Surefire and one of the better Eotechs on the carbine. That would essentially describe my problem solving set up, but I'm a frugal shopper and got it for less. Any old handgun would also be helpful. You can simply stuff it in one of the mag pouches on your chest rig.
 
A pair of glock 17's with the 33rd clips....and several pre-loaded mags.....9mm all the way lots of ammo minimal weight...
 
Hmmm, this thing may have a purpose!

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I keep 240+ moonclips loaded with .45 ACP ball ammo - should keep me going for a while. Then, there are thousands of .45 Colts, etc... and my double bladed axe...

Stainz

PS Don't forget the start of Season Two of AMC's 'The Walking Dead' 9 PM Central Sunday night.
 
I'm an old fart who grew up watching Combat with Vic Morrow. IMO the perfect Zombie Gun is the good old Tommy Gun. Equipped with either a 30 round stick or 100 round drum it's a carbine that offers the big old 45ACP in a package that should be quite "handy" for a Zombie Apocalypse. In addition the 45 ACP does suppress well, so you'd be able to shoot a bit quieter and not draw in all those wandering Undead. Final plus it uses the same ammo as your sidearm.
 
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KelTec SUB-2000 and a Glock 22. Lots and lots of interchangeable magazines. And a machete for backup. Or maybe a broad axe.
 
My solution for the zombie attach is a Mossberg 930 SPX with a ammo can full of OO buck shot cartridges. When the time comes, I'm gonna pile em up like cord wood from the second story of my house!

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I'm an old fart who grew up watching Combat with Vic Morrow. IMO the perfect Zombie Gun is the good old Tommy Gun. Equipped with either a 30 round stick or 100 round drum it's a carbine that offers the big old 45ACP in a package that should be quite "handy" for a Zombie Apocalypse. In addition the 45 ACP does suppress well, so you'd be able to shoot a bit quieter and not draw in all those wandering Undead. Final plus it uses the same ammo as your sidearm.

I'm with scooter on this one.... unfortunately I'm stuck in Commiefornia so a full auto 45 cal Thompson isn't likely in my future. Guess this gussied up Ruger 10/22 will have to do.

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Will also keep my Remington 870 handy.
 
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I'm with scooter on this one.... unfortunately I'm stuck in Commiefornia so a full auto 45 cal Thompson isn't likely in my future. Guess this gussied up Ruger 10/22 will have to do.

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Will also keep my Remington 870 handy.

Perhaps the best 10/22 conversion I have ever seen....
 
Thank you sir.... no longer has the red dot optics though, replaced with a genuine 1928 Thompson rear sight.
 
Zombies? If it's Zombies, then you'd best pack something serious... M-1 Garand stuffed with AP. Put a Kabar on your hip and a roll of duck tape in your truck dash and there won't be hardly anything you can't handle! Remember the nice thing about AP is it turns cover into concealment!
 
Zombies? If it's Zombies, then you'd best pack something serious... M-1 Garand stuffed with AP. Put a Kabar on your hip and a roll of duck tape in your truck dash and there won't be hardly anything you can't handle! Remember the nice thing about AP is it turns cover into concealment!

The newer black tip 5.56mm ammo - not sold commercially - actually penetrates barriers and armor as well as, if not better than, the old black tip .30-06. It used to just show up on SAW belts, but that was some years ago and is more widely distributed now.

Ever since Talon had some problems, the supply of remanufactured .30-06 AP seems to have dried up.

In either case Esapi or Xsapi plates are specifically rated to protect against multiple hits of either. Officially they are multi hit for M2AP, this was to avoid widely distributed the exact specs for the newer 5.56mm in the industry apparently.

Where a Garand can become a problem in hard times is when it comes to feeding it. There are a fair number of people over the years who have bent their op rods firing reloads or hunting ammo that differed too far from M2 spec fmj. Like it's late semi descendant the M1A/M14, the tolerances for the ammo are fairly exacting too. It's also a bit of a problem to find an armorer that knows how to work on one, whereas AR/M16 armorers are plentiful.

A Saiga in .308 or good FAL clone will deliver the same basic ballistics and eat a wider range of ammo, including rusty Russian steel cased stuff.
 
How about a suppressed Hechler Koch USP .40. If these are Walking Dead zombies, they can hear and are attracted to gunfire. With the suppressor, well you can put one in the brainbox before his friends hear about it.

The good things is that the zombies will be easy to find, they are protesting Wall St right now.
 
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