I like the pack presentations (the grippers tend to not fill my hand), but the grip screw is in exactly the wrong place on the current model for tuned mainsprings - the old ones work fine. But - nothing works as well with a speedloader as the Uncle Mikes, nor does anything fit my hand as well. It's my understanding that Spigel and UM got into a beef about something, hence UM doesn't make the K/L frame grips (other than the small gripper things that may not be Spigel designs) which is a real pain for those of us who love 'em.