Universal Background Checks - Concealed Carry Permit Holders
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In Alabama there is no requirement for a background check between private sales.
Arizona is good to go, no problem.
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Here in the free state of Arkansas the government doesn't care what you do with your personal property.
The problem with Virginia is that it's too close to D.C., the home of fruits and nuts.
The problem with Virginia is that it's too close to D.C., the home of fruits and nuts.
The same holds true for Georgia.
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In days gone by, I bought and sold to/from people in a 4 state area, or
maybe more at gun shows. My question what does it matter what state
two people reside?
maybe more at gun shows. My question what does it matter what state
two people reside?
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All agree, once you lose a right there is no reversing the action.When the State Senate changes control in Nov. they will introduce bills which favor CHP holders but the prior VA firearms laws which were changed over 8 years will never be restored.
In NC the purchase permit from the Sheriff is supposed to be retained by the seller. One permit, one pistol. If the buyer keeps the permit it could be used to receive another pistol which is illegal. LarryMy relative just had to do the paperwork for the state required permit to purchase. My relative has her handgun, and a little piece of paper from them saying she was allowed by the state to purchase (or receive it as a gift in this particular case) from me.
Still doesn't sound correct to me, but it was cheaper than going through a dealer.
Several years ago, I gifted a handgun to a relative in NC (I'm in TN). I expected to have to go through a local FFL (as Federal law suggests). The local Sheriff's office said they were allowed to authorize the transfer. My relative just had to do the paperwork for the state required permit to purchase. My relative has her handgun, and a little piece of paper from them saying she was allowed by the state to purchase (or receive it as a gift in this particular case) from me.
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Still doesn't sound correct to me, but it was cheaper than going through a dealer.
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It wasn't correct. I'm guessing the Sheriff wasn't an FFL nor was your relative in the other State.
Transfer of a handgun between two people from different States must go thru an FFL at the recv'ing end where a 4473/NICS is completed.
About the only time that is not done is if the gun is left to a person by bequeath. I think the gun can go directly to the other person.
But lots of things like this happen especially within familys & circles of close friends.
The gov't has their hand in everything. Plus they change their mind a lot.
What is OK one day may not be the next.
We (NYS) had at one time our NYS P/P could be used in place of the NICS check.
That was a convenient thing.
Then the ATF decided that too many people were obtaining falsified P/P's
from some County Clerks Offices simply walking them out the back door all typed up with the Official seal crimped into it.
Also too many actual P/P holders were getting things on their record while still holding a P/P.
Not checking the actual NICS system during a sale,,the things like a felonys, domestic abuse assaults, etc were never known about by an FFL making a sale.
So the use of the P/P in place of the NICS check was taken away.
Even before NICS we had put in place that all sales/transferes between private partys taking place at GunShows must go thru an FFL. (since 1991,but no one really bothered with it)
Then after NICS came to be, that was expanded to ALL sales betw private partys no matter where they take place have to go thru an FFL (The SAFE Act).
..and No,,you will never get 'The Good Old Days back again,,,,Never'
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No requirement in Mississippi for a background check for a sale between citizens. If buying from an FFL, with a state issued firearms permit, you just fill out the 4473, pay, and you are out the door with the firearm purchased - no background check.
otis24
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Very simple solution, if anyone has done anything that would prevent them from purchasing a firearm, mark it on their driver's license. Or give EVERYONE access to NICS. Let us have the ability to call in and check DL number or SSN with a simple phone call. That way, any fears about person to person sales are alleviated.
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In Mass. you can not sell a handgun or an "assault weapon" manufactured prior to 1994 to a person unless they have an LTC. You can not sell a rifle or shotgun to a person unless they have an LTC or an FID. No background check is required at the time of sale. You do not have to go through a FFL but you are supposed to go to an online portal where you report the sale. There is no charge. Of course this is Massachusetts and all that could change in a nano second.
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Nobody directly answered the OP's question . Off the top of my head , with 90% certainty , there is not a jurisdiction with that exact set of particularities .
The closest off the top of my head is a state that otherwise requires FFL transfer for all firearms ( except for very limited family ) , does allow two 003 holders to directly transfer a C&R Long gun w/o FFL 001 or state involvement .
The closest off the top of my head is a state that otherwise requires FFL transfer for all firearms ( except for very limited family ) , does allow two 003 holders to directly transfer a C&R Long gun w/o FFL 001 or state involvement .
There is a "paperwork requirement" in which US currency is transferred from the buyer to the seller. Joe
Florida no CC permit or FFL needed for face to face sales between two residents.
Ohio - you can sell to another Ohio resident
But we have never lost the right.
Across state lines requires a FFL.
But we have never lost the right.
Across state lines requires a FFL.
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Sheriff Permit's cost $5, good for 5 (?) years, and you can get as many as you want. Fill out the form on line, put in your DL for identification and takes 2 or 3 days to get. Worse part is you have to go down to the Sheriff's office to pick it up. Can honestly say I don't think I did anything besides throw it away after I showed it to the seller. The form is a two part carbon copy, the buyer is supposed to keep one and the seller keeps the copy ( or visa versa). Been awhile (finally got my CCW) but I used to buy handguns from my local hardware store and once asked what did he do with his copy. He says he maintained them with the 4473 form. Also stated that when the BATF inspected his paperwork they had no interest in the NC paperwork or law and in the 30 years he had been in business no one from the state had came around to inspect the paperwork - but he had them.
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I haven't lived in Alabama since 2001, but the law back then stated that an 18 year old or older person with a clean record could buy a handgun in a private sale (in-state). I doubt that law has changed.
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My gun club used to have a monthly swap meet where you could buy and sell guns, ammo, etc among the members. That new law effectively ended that.
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