Unproud owner of Sigma 40 VE

[Jim NNN]

I'm not the person to be handing out advice on target shooting, but many have told me "focus on the front sight more than the rear" and it really seems to be true. Also, if this gun doesn't work out and you decide to sell it, you might think about 9mm's too. Not all gun ranges rent guns, but many do, and renting would be a great opportunity to see what works for you beforehand.

Also, did anyone else shoot this gun? What did they think?

 

[ikacc]

I have taken aiming lessons and know to sight from the front with back lined up. I wish I had rented a few but never thought I would have such an issue with a gun that felt so comfortable in my hand and being so proficient with the 1911. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. It's just that since I live in NJ I have to wait 30 days before I can get another handgun and go through the same jumping through hoops to get it.

 

[ikacc]

My brother and nephew both used it and thought the same about the trigger. Neither were as good on it as the Colt. I'm wondering if I should contact S&W or change the spring for a lighter pull. My first mag with the 1911 and my grouping was tight - like within three inch radius at 15 yds. And THAT was the first time I shot anything other than a BB gun. With the Sigma I'm lucky to get within 10 inches of each other, although they all are within the "body" on the target.

 

[growr]

Comparing two VERY different systems here.You will NEVER get a Sigma or any other striker fired system to be like a 1911 so quit trying to compare them. Sell your Sigma to someone that will appreciate it for what it is...save your money and buy a Colt or any other high quality 1911.

Shooting a Sigma is not much different than shooting a double action revolver. Many people that take the time to learn the firearm ( Sigma) end up finding that they shoot VERY well.

Randy

 

[RPNelson]

Comparing two VERY different systems here.You will NEVER get a Sigma or any other striker fired system to be like a 1911 so quit trying to compare them. Sell your Sigma to someone that will appreciate it for what it is...save your money and buy a Colt or any other high quality 1911.

Shooting a Sigma is not much different than shooting a double action revolver. Many people that take the time to learn the firearm ( Sigma) end up finding that they shoot VERY well.

Randy

I agree..I have only had my 9VE for about 2 months now and have put about 500rds thru it and I still have some issues with it. Low and left...but its hitting the target. Doing alot better then when I first shot it. hang in there...

 

[PossibleZombie]

You gotta understand that weapons feel different to everyone who holds them, some shoot differently as well. I've bought and sold many pistols, so if this doesn't work for you then trade it in and try another. Someone else will enjoy it.

 

[Chuck1217]

You mentioned installing new springs, think you're jumping the gun again- so to speak. Wait, give it a chance. Once you're either good with it or not- then you can decide. If you get ALMOST perfect with it, THEN you could consider internal changes. But go slow, like ya said ya gotta wait 30 days to get another- may as well take your time, see what happens before going thru the hassle again. Might just work out with the Sigma.

 

[baccusboy]

If you liked the colt that much, you should have gotten an American Classic II or Rock Island tactical. Both 1911's at a great price with decent quality.

 

[EXERCISINGTHE2ND]

If I had enough to buy a Colt I definitely would have. Thought that was a given.

Then why b**ch? We've all heard the phrase, "you get what you pay for." I'll give you $102.25

 

[johnsonl]

Ditch the Sigma, eat the loss (I'll give you $102.00) and get the 1911 pistol. It seems to click for you. S&W makes a very good one. So does Colt and a host of other manufacturers.

 

[Knightrider03m]

I'll give you $105 for your "crappy" Sigma

 

[caribe]

I am a new shooter and bought a Sigma .40. Being a new shooter, I enjoy shooting the Sigma. You get really disciplined on trigger control. I have fired about 900 rounds through it with no failures, and it seems the trigger is not that heavy anymore. I also did a lot of trigger control dry firing it. Give it some time. Wow, my first post.

 

[Deltaboy]

Gee Wizz I thought we finally had a Sigma KA_BOOM!

 

[HalfStack]

You need to give it more time, more practice. You can remove the torsion (pigtail) spring and it'll lighten the trigger but it's still hard enough for safety but leave the sear and striker springs alone so you won't have light strikes and reset failures. If you have the slide off you can put a dab of grease on the sear cam that rides on the plastic sear housing. It'll make it smoother and lessen the wear to the plastic. Squeeze the trigger and watch the movement of the sear and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I did mine and it's 100% after 600 rounds. Oh yea, mine a 9ve.

 

[COL Jagdog]

Apparently not, otherwise you would bought the colt. Take dime and place it on the top of the frame near the front sight of the gun. After triple checking it is unloaded ( once for you, once for me, once just because), practice your dry firing like this. It can be used on an auto, revolver, rifle and I have found that it has been helpful for myself and others over the past 33 yrs. Once you develop the trigger pull on the Sigma, you will find that it translates well to snubbies, rifles, but the greatest benefit will be your accuracy. Be Safe,

Vipermd is spot on with his advice -- I was trained to practice trigger pull while balancing a spent .223 round just behind the front sight -- it really does work and if you practice this, it will smooth out your trigger control.

I have never fired a Sigma -- however, I have lots of experience on striker fired pistols -- if it has a trigger re-set,
that is a great trigger control practice tool.

Case in point: I just bought a Springfield .40 cal XDM with 5.25" match barrel. Practiced dry-firing for a week, took it to the range, fired 240 rds at POST targets -- fired each stage
(25 yd, 15 yd, 7 yd, 4 yd, 2 yd) at timed intervals -- had never fired a Springfield before ever (but have fired lots of revolvers, 1911's, M-9's and other auto pistols). Averaged
104 out of 120 pts each time. Practiced one more week, then shot for qualification -- which requires shooting the course 4times -- averaged 109 out of 120 (minimum score for each round is 96). The point is that "perfect practice makes perfect" the XDM trigger pull was all brand new to me, but like driving a new car, you have to learn how it handles.

bottom line: don't get discouraged, practice, practice re the trigger pull.

The poster who wrote about proper grip is also spot on -- poor grip leads to many FTF (failure to feed), especially stovepipes.

The 7 cardinal rules for firing a pistol:

1. Proper stance
2.Proper grip
3. sight alignment
4. sight picture
5.breath control
6. trigger control
7.followthrough

Hope this helps a little.

 

[ikacc]

COL, yes this all helps very much. I can't practice until this weekend (gun is home) but I will definitely do the practice routines and hand strengthening as suggested. I like your 7 rules (how I was taught but nice to have a numbered list to run down). I'm not that far off what you list as needed to qualify except the 25 yds. so I guess I need to be more patient and work harder on getting a feel for it. Thanks all with positive ideas.

 

[40cal]

With patience & practice your Sigma will shoot fine & youll shoot a 1911 dead-nuts acurite.
IMO a SW40 is a SHTF goto - not a range queen.

 

[HalfStack]

Siggy? Hmm... I think I'll name mine Sigmund.

 

[J Rich]

Well dry firing is much different than real firing.

How is that? Other than boom, recoil, and the trigger reset. The trigger pull is the same. Same travel and weight.

Mine works fine it's also modified, but it performed as it should when it was box stock. The Sigma could anyways be better (IMO).

It's not fair to compare a Honda when you have only drove a BMW. Keep shooting it gets better. If not I got $110.00 on that Sigma.

 

[Cornhusker]

Just to jump on the pro Sigma wagon for a minute
I bought my SW9VE a couple years ago, and it's the gun I chose to use when we shot for our CCW class.
I, like a lot of others, shot low left to the point I was getting frustrated.
I told the instructor my sights must be off.
He asked if he could try it, I said "Sure", figuring he was going to adjust my sights for me.
He pulled a playing card from is coat pocket, cut a slot in the target backing and stuck the card in.
He then backed up to about 30 ft and spit the card with my Sigma, handed it back and told me "Nothing wrong with your sights"
I became a better shooter once I realized it was all me