(UPDATED) Washington State Drops AR, KS, MS and MO.

[Gary Slider]

Update: Concealed Weapon Reciprocity | Washington State

Washington State has added Kansas back on the list of states they honor. I thought they would as the reason they gave for dropping them was not what KS Law stated. Handgunlaw.us has been updated to show this additional change.


Washington state Attorney General updated his reciprocity listing on their website today. Missing from the list of states they honor are Arkansas, Kansas, Mississippi and Missouri. Concealed Weapon Reciprocity | Washington State If you go to the link you will see the listing and if you scroll down the page you will see the reasons given for not honoring those states. AR, MO and MS because they issue to those under 21. I don't understand their Kansas reason and hoping they are just reading Kansas law wrong. Kansas honors all other states permit licenses. Washington is stating their reason for not honoring Kansas. "Does not recognize WA CPL in a meaningful way as will only recognize if holder is KS resident." Handgunlaw.us will be updated late this evening to reflect those changes listed above.

 

[Redcoat3340]

Thanks for that, from a fellow-Washington State resident.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Constitutional Carry becomes effective July 1 in Kansas.

 

[Faulkner]

. . . Missing from the list of states they honor are Arkansas, Kansas, Mississippi and Missouri. Concealed Weapon Reciprocity | Washington State If you go to the link you will see the listing and if you scroll down the page you will see the reasons given for not honoring those states. AR, MO and MS because they issue to those under 21.

Arkansas does not issue to those under 21.

 

[Gary Slider]

"Residents" in the Military or Honorably Discharged from the military may apply at 18

 

[Whitwabit]

some info on that page isn't right

this statement is in error wondering if they are other errors?

Illinois No Does not permit either its own residents or any non-resident to carry a concealed weapon, therefore no reciprocity possible.
- See more at: Concealed Weapon Reciprocity | Washington State

Illinois does now issue CCL to both resident and non residents that qualify.

 

[hoc9sw]

I've seen failure to recognize based on under-21, but when the only under-21 that qualify are members of the military, you've got to wonder. The "kid" can kill the enemy to protect us, but can't protect himself at home?

Can I ask if anyone else sees a problem here?

 

[wx7b]

WA is going the CA way and trying to harass gun owners more and more. Getting to be time to move, only 30 miles to ID!!

 

[Rastoff]

WA is going the CA way and trying to harass gun owners more and more. Getting to be time to move, only 30 miles to ID!!

While I understand this desire, especially as a CA resident, I wish you would choose to fight for your rights rather than run away. The only way to save this country is to fight for our rights. Eventually there will be nowhere to move to.

 

[Mainsail]

WA is going the CA way and trying to harass gun owners more and more. Getting to be time to move, only 30 miles to ID!!

The AG has to follow the law regardless of his or her feelings about it. WA had to drop FL after FL started issuing CCWs to under-21 veterans. The AG isn't anti-military, but the way the law is written he cannot have reciprocity with any state that issue permits to under 21s.

Washington's constitutional right to arms provision, Article 1 § 24, is one of the least ambiguous arms provisions of the 50 states. The WA courts system has affirmed and recognized the right to be what the language plainly says, unlike some states (say, Texas) where the not-so-plain language gets twisted.

We do not require any permit or license to buy, own, or carry a firearm. If you are on your way to, at, or returning from an outdoor activity you may carry concealed without a license or permit.

There are states with laws that go a little easier, but a whole lot more that are so bad it's worth moving away.

The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this Section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

 

[Fastbolt]

When you see this sort of variation and changes among the state-level approval and reciprocity issues, it sort of hints why having all the state representatives and senators getting together for some "simple" national reciprocity legislation is probably more than a little unlikely. Maybe by the time we've gotten the possibly simpler task of establishing a Mars base accomplished??

The states would lose their ability to change their minds, and individual requirements, upon whim or reason.

Good job on trying to keep abreast of the multiplicity of things, sometimes seemingly similar to herding cats, Gary.

 

[M29since14]

I've seen failure to recognize based on under-21...

Can I ask if anyone else sees a problem here?

Of course - it's ridiculous.

 

[MattO]

Seems I can now take Washington off my states I want to visit. If I can't carry in that state to protect myself because they don't recognize my CCW for the reason they state. Illinois right next door is off my list of places I spend my money too.

 

[Mainsail]

Seems I can now take Washington off my states I want to visit. If I can't carry in that state to protect myself....

You can still carry, just not concealed. Well, you can still carry concealed if you are engaging in (or coming from/going to) some sort of outdoor activity like fishing, hiking, or camping.

 

[MattO]

You can still carry, just not concealed. Well, you can still carry concealed if you are engaging in (or coming from/going to) some sort of outdoor activity like fishing, hiking, or camping.

I don't open carry. I think that just makes me a target should things go down. If I can't conceal carry, I won't carry at all. And I prefer to carry.

 

[Doug M.]

It is pretty easy to get a non-resident CPL; same process as us. All you have to do is find a small agency that does not use the max waiting period to issue.

 

[kbuckey]

Seems I can now take Washington off my states I want to visit. If I can't carry in that state to protect myself because they don't recognize my CCW for the reason they state. Illinois right next door is off my list of places I spend my money too.

I'm starting on a 3000+ mile motorcycle trip on Tuesday and my route is about 200 miles longer in order to avoid IL and MN, which don't recognize my CO CCW. Oh, well, I don't suspect they care and a longer ride is better than a shorter one!

 

[Fastbolt]

I'm starting on a 3000+ mile motorcycle trip on Tuesday and my route is about 200 miles longer in order to avoid IL and MN, which don't recognize my CO CCW. Oh, well, I don't suspect they care and a longer ride is better than a shorter one!

What bike? Hope the saddle's a good one.

Stay safe.

 

[kbuckey]

Man, I haven't been on here for a while! Bike for my June ride was a Suzuki DR650 - albeit with a Seat Concepts seat. Since then I've also done a short trip to WY (about 300 miles round trip) and a longer one to AZ (1500 miles), those two on a KTM Duke 690 with a stock seat, and another trip this month to TX of 2000+ miles - also DR650. And all states that welcome my CCW!