I just herd UPS has reversed its policies. Went to UPS site and don’t understand their policy. It says they won’t ship unless the goods are legal both under Federal Law and the State laws the of shipment destination. To me that is no different than it was before this hype. Am I missing something?
UPS ? Firearms policy
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I hope that's true.
This was a previous discussion about their policy change:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge...firearms.html?highlight=Shipping+firearms+ups
This was a previous discussion about their policy change:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge...firearms.html?highlight=Shipping+firearms+ups
I'm curious where, how?
You heard in a gun store? On another forum? From a Facebook post? In a fugue state? On a Fox News Alert? From patrons in a coffee shop? Checkout line at a grocery store?
Trying to separate wheat from chaff, please assist!
Direct from the UPS website:
Shipments containing Firearm Products are accepted for transportation only from shippers who are federally licensed and have an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
However under their rules it also states:
UPS accepts packages containing Firearm Products for shipment only as a contractual service and only from Shippers who are licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors (as defined in Title 18, Chapter 44 of the United States Code) to authorized recipients, as outlined in the approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
So I am assuming (yeah I know) that until such time that they change this, C&R holders who have a UPS account can still ship any legitimate firearm to any legitimate FFL. I know that is how it worked for me a month ago when I was shipping guns I had sold for my brother-in-law.
Shipments containing Firearm Products are accepted for transportation only from shippers who are federally licensed and have an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
However under their rules it also states:
UPS accepts packages containing Firearm Products for shipment only as a contractual service and only from Shippers who are licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors (as defined in Title 18, Chapter 44 of the United States Code) to authorized recipients, as outlined in the approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
So I am assuming (yeah I know) that until such time that they change this, C&R holders who have a UPS account can still ship any legitimate firearm to any legitimate FFL. I know that is how it worked for me a month ago when I was shipping guns I had sold for my brother-in-law.
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Just for the heck of it, I thought I'd better throw in my two cents worth...and it might not even be worth that, but here goes anyway.
One of my sons is in UPS Corporate. Here's what he told me. First off, shipping firearms is a big part of their business, probably bigger than most people realize.
Because of that, UPS has standards that far exceed those of Fed-Ex and even the U.S. Postal Service when it comes to shipping hazardous materials, alcohol, and firearms. In addition, they also adhere to the many state and federal restrictions placed upon the shipping of those materials. The reason for the extra caution?? Simple. Like I said, shipping that kind of stuff is big business for them and they don't want to be held liable.
And, yes, if UPS catches some bozo shipping materials in violation of either UPS, state, or federal regulations, the package will be seized. Otherwise, UPS would be held liable.
Hope that helps clear things up a bit.
One of my sons is in UPS Corporate. Here's what he told me. First off, shipping firearms is a big part of their business, probably bigger than most people realize.
Because of that, UPS has standards that far exceed those of Fed-Ex and even the U.S. Postal Service when it comes to shipping hazardous materials, alcohol, and firearms. In addition, they also adhere to the many state and federal restrictions placed upon the shipping of those materials. The reason for the extra caution?? Simple. Like I said, shipping that kind of stuff is big business for them and they don't want to be held liable.
And, yes, if UPS catches some bozo shipping materials in violation of either UPS, state, or federal regulations, the package will be seized. Otherwise, UPS would be held liable.
Hope that helps clear things up a bit.
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It doesn't sound like anything changed.
I doubt having a "UPS account" is the same as having an "approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products".
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Just for the heck of it, I thought I'd better throw in my two cents worth...and it might not even be worth that, but here goes anyway.
One of my sons is in UPS Corporate. Here's what he told me. First off, shipping firearms is a big part of their business, probably bigger than most people realize.
Because of that, UPS has standards that far exceed those of Fed-Ex and even the U.S. Postal Service when it comes to shipping hazardous materials, alcohol, and firearms. In addition, they also adhere to the many state and federal restrictions placed upon the shipping of those materials. The reason for the extra caution?? Simple. Like I said, shipping that kind of stuff is big business for them and they don't want to be held liable.
And, yes, if UPS catches some bozo shipping materials in violation of either UPS, state, or federal regulations, the package will be seized. Otherwise, UPS would be held liable.
Hope that helps clear things up a bit.
So their standard are so high they no longer trust the law abiding citizen who needs to lawfully send a gun somewhere. How nice, as they say in the South.
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