urgent 2 part question

[wizzap]

I just purchased SD40ve brand new from Academy Sports about 3 nights ago they were on sale for 299.00 I have the shield and love it. Anyway I did not get out to fire the gun until yesterday. When i pulled the trigger it did not snap and fire Im aware of longer trigger pull so i pulled harder nothing so i released the trigger and was about to clear weapon when it went off finger not on the trigger. I dropped the mag and cleared it and dry fired it it had a delay in snaping i tried 2 more shots and it still, had a delay.

I came back inside called S&W the guy i spoke too said he never heard of anything like it advised me to call Academy since i only had it 2 days and to take off slide and look for problems.

I removed slide and looked saw nothing to my eye wrong put it back together and tried to fire it again this time it fired but every other shot or so had small delay.

I called Academy and they said i could bring it in they would ship it back for me I live 2 hours from the store so i called S&W back the emailed me a label so now for my 2 questions

1. Most important question The shipping label says tell the driver that its a firearm I have read on several message boards to never tell them because they will refuse to take it and make you go to a hub my hub is 2 hours away. Do i tell them ? I want to be legal and covered by insurance.

2. has anyone ever had this happen to them with the delayed firing or know what happend

Sorry for wall of text please advise me

 

[Mcwsky09]

If there is a delay when dry firing then I would not think a hang fire caused by some delay in the primer - though it is perhaps another reason not to be too quick to forget the safety rules when you have a failure to fire when expected.

I an not an expert or professional gun smith but I would think it could be a number of things with the transfer bar - sear - and firing pin channel (or spring etc) begin the places I would look to see if I could figure out what is going on.

If there is goo in the firing pin channel it could be causing the firing pin to move too slowly at first until it overcomes that friction and then bang. Or if the firing pin spring has a kink in it that might cause intermittent problems.

If the transfer bar is not moving freely and or if the sear and transfer bar interface is damaged or has foreign material in there it might cause a disconnect between the trigger and the firing pin action.

Personally I would do a detail strip and check it all out. Yes I know brand new and warranty etc but I like to be able to fix my own problems and depend on the warranty for things that are outside of my ability to correct.

Also - in a perfect world you would know someone who has the same model with no issue and you could swap the slides and see if the problem is in the frame or the slide depending on which one has the problem after the swap. Unless perhaps it is the interface between transfer bar and sear - swapping slides might result in neither or both having an issue at that point.

But I would still first at least remove the firing pin and inspect the pin and spring and channel and try to determine if the transfer bar is moving freely.

as for shipping - I did have to send a gun in for warranty repair recently - and the company told me to go to a UPS depot and told me to put "sporting goods" on the box - but the guy there said that was not specific enough and that if it was a firearm then I was required by law to disclose that fact - and in that case the company did not pay for shipping.

 

[OKFC05]

By law, you must tell the shipping company it is a firearm, and your insurance is worthless if you don't.
By law, there must be NO marking on the box to indicate it is a firearm.
So tell the company or write it on their shipping form, but DON'T write it on the outside of the box.

 

[GKC]

By law, you must tell the shipping company it is a firearm, and your insurance is worthless if you don't.
By law, there must be NO marking on the box to indicate it is a firearm.
So tell the company or write it on their shipping form, but DON'T write it on the outside of the box.

I may be wrong, but I don't think it is a law...I think this is UPS and FedEx policy. I think the applicable law restricts a non-FFL holder from shipping handguns via USPS...but doesn't address common carriers. It is the carrier's policy to require overnight (i.e., expensive) shipping, and not mandated by law.

Like I said, I may be wrong, but I believe I've seen this addressed before. In any case, I have used a shipping label provided by the company on a couple of occasions (once from Ruger and once from Springfield Armory) and called for a pickup at my home. No questions, no problems. On a couple of other occasions, I took the gun in to a local gun shop and they shipped it for me at their cost...much less.

 

[JWH321]

Clear the weapon.
Lock the slide back
use a pointed instrument to hold the striker assembly channel forward
Remove the rear slide cover
Remove the striker assembly
Check it for burrs or other damage and for smooth operation.
Sight from the rear of the slide down the striker channel, looking for obstructions, debris, or damage

I've seen quite a few new guns with drilling debris or milling debris in the striker channel.

ANYTHING in that channel can cause what you are describing.

You may need to remove the striker block to check for damage or debris on it or in its channel. Thst is done by pushing out the roll pin in the top of the slide and removing the extractor. This may be best left to Smith & Wesson.

I can't think of anything else that would cause the things you have described.

I would advise you to not load a live round in this gun again till you get to the bottom of the problem.

My UPS guy takes whatever I hand him, especially something with a prepaid corporate label on it. I've never been questioned about it.

 

[OKFC05]

I may be wrong, but I don't think it is a law

You are wrong, and here is the law direct from the ATF website:

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Frequently Asked Questions | ATF

 

[Smoke]

You are wrong, and here is the law direct from the ATF website:

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Frequently Asked Questions | ATF

JMO it's always best to cite the relevant law

 

[GKC]

You are wrong, and here is the law direct from the ATF website:

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Frequently Asked Questions | ATF

Thanks for that clarification. The law does specify the use of a common carrier, and that the carrier must be notified that it is indeed a gun. The law also states that no label can be required to identify it as a gun.

However, I still don't see where the law says that the common carrier must require overnight shipping. Is that not company policy versus law?

 

[fbcmrjrtykr]

Though I never had the symptoms you described, I was quite surprised to find metallic shavings inside the striker channel when I added the Galloway spring kit (which included a new striker spring). Since that point, I've made it a practice to clean the striker channel each time I clean my weapon. That channel should be dry and uninstructed from my understanding


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[GKC]

dry and uninstructed

Sounds like most of my college professors...

Yes, the channel should be clean and dry. This is one reason I prefer guns like the SD9VE: you don't have to knock out pins or go through a lot of rigamarole to take out the striker in order to clean out the channel. Same thing for 1911s...easy to disassemble.

 

[wizzap]

follow up:::::::::


I called fed ex at 745 am asked for a pick up they were here at about 11-am I told the lady it was a firearm being sent in for repair she said thank you scanned the package petted my dog and left no problems i'll follow up as this case goes along. S&W did say they on 3 to 4 week turn around

 

[brchambersjr]

I sent my sd9ve in last week and there were no issues with telling them and the lady said that she deals with firearms all the time.


Metal shavings in your striker channel is most likely primer flow. I get it also especially with Winchester white box.

Bill

 

[MSG Glenn]

I sent my sd9ve in last week and there were no issues with telling them and the lady said that she deals with firearms all the time.

Bill

I expect in Texas she does, lol.

 

[brchambersjr]

I expect in Texas she does, lol.

Hahaha, ain't that the truth.

 

[fbcmrjrtykr]

Sounds like most of my college professors...



Yes, the channel should be clean and dry. This is one reason I prefer guns like the SD9VE: you don't have to knock out pins or go through a lot of rigamarole to take out the striker in order to clean out the channel. Same thing for 1911s...easy to disassemble.

Stupid autocorrect. Unobstructed you silly iPhone.


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[SD4me]

Mine did the same thing. Did you clean it before you fired it? I didn't clean mine before firing it and I had the same problem. I took it home after that and cleaned it and it has never delayed on me again. 300+ rounds later. Like everyone has said, sometimes there are little things that get in the way and need to be cleaned before firing. Hope this helps!

 

[sandman228]

hi all 1st post for me on this forum . I bought a used 40ve a few weeks ago brought it home cleaned it put slide back on and it was doing the same thing (delay firing) I took it back down and this time removed the striker assembly cleaned it up cleaned the channel put it all back together and its worked fine since .i'll admit this pistol took some getting used to and it don't seem to like the slightly warm handloads I shoot from my Taurus pt100 . since then ive loaded some milder loads and i'll admit I did the trigger mod ive seen on youtube (some people might frown on that ) but its ALLOT more pleasant to shoot now and my accuracy is much better .