USPS no longer shipping handguns.(Error) UPS no longer accepting from individuals

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Originally posted that USPS will not accept firearms from FFL because that is what they told him. Got Corporate USPS to call post office and inform them they will accept firearms as always. So it was local post office fault. UPS did recently announce they no longer accept firearms from individuals and only from FFL with current UPS account. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
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Unless this is out of date, your FFL is being snowed by the local office.

432.23 Manufacturers, Dealers, and Importers

Handguns may also be mailed between licensed manufacturers of firearms, licensed dealers of firearms, and licensed importers of firearms in customary trade shipments, or for repairing or replacing parts.
 
Either your dealer or his post office is WRONG.
The regs still read the same---

432 Mailability | Postal Explorer..

which says:
scroll down to NOTE>>>


432 Mailability

432.1 General

Mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, all of the provisions of postal law in 18 U.S.C. 1715, and all other all federal and state regulations and local ordinances affecting the movement of firearms. The following also applies:

  • The Postal Service may require the mailer to open parcels containing firearms or air guns or give written certification that the weapon is unloaded and not concealable.
  • Short-barreled rifles or shotguns that can be concealed on the person are nonmailable.
  • No markings of any kind that indicate the nature of the contents may be placed on the outside wrapper or container of any mailpiece containing firearms.
  • Mailable matter must be properly and securely packaged within the general packaging requirements in DMM 601.1-7.
  • Except for shipments between licensed dealers, manufacturers, or importers, all regulated firearms must be mailed using a USPS product or Extra Service that provides tracking and signature capture at delivery.
432.2 Handguns

Handguns and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person are nonmailable unless mailed between the parties listed in this section, after the filing of an affidavit or statement described in 432.22 or 432.24, and are subject to the following:

  • Firearms meeting the definition of a handgun under 431.2 and the definition of curios or relics under 27 CFR 478.11 may be mailed between curio and relic collectors only when those firearms also meet the definition of an antique firearm under 431.3.
  • Firearms meeting the definition of a handgun under 431.2, which are certified by the curator of a municipal, state, or federal museum that exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest, may be accepted for mailing between governmental museums without regard to the restrictions provided for handguns in 432.21 through 432.24 and Exhibit 432.25.
  • Air guns (see 431.6) that do not fall within the definition of firearms under 431.1 and are capable of being concealed on a person are mailable, but must include Adult Signature service under DMM 503.8. Mailers must comply with all applicable state and local regulations.
  • Parts of handguns are mailable, except for handgun frames, receivers or other parts or components regulated under Chapter 44, Title 18, U.S.C.
  • Mailers are also subject to applicable restrictions by governments of a state, territory, or district.
432.21 Authorized Persons

Subject to 432.22, handguns may be mailed by a licensed manufacturer of firearms, a licensed dealer of firearms, a licensed importer of firearms, or an authorized agent of the federal government or the government of a state, territory, or district, only when addressed to a person in one of the following categories for use in the person's official duties, and upon filing the required affidavit or certificate:

  • Officers of the Army, Coast Guard, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, or Organized Reserve Corps.
  • Officers of the National Guard or militia of a state, territory, or district.
  • Officers of the United States or of a state, territory, or district, whose official duty is to serve warrants of arrest or commitment.
  • USPS employees authorized by the Chief Postal Inspector.
  • Officers and employees of enforcement agencies of the United States.
  • Watchmen engaged in guarding the property of the United States, a state, territory, or district.
  • Purchasing agent or other designated member of agencies employing officers and employees included in 432.21c through e.
432.22 Affidavit of Addressee

Any person proposing to mail a handgun under 432.21 must file with the Postmaster, at the time of mailing, an affidavit signed by the addressee setting forth that the addressee is qualified to receive the firearm under a particular category of 432.21a through 432.21g, and that the firearm is intended for the addressee's official use. The affidavit must also bear a certificate stating that the firearm is for the official duty use of the addressee, signed by one of the following, as appropriate:

  • For officers of Armed Forces, by the commanding officer.
  • For officers and employees of enforcement agencies, by the head of the agency employing the addressee to perform the official duty with which the firearm is to be used.
  • For watchmen, by the chief clerk of the department, bureau, or independent branch of the government of the United States, the state, the territory, or the district by which the watchman is employed.
  • For the purchasing agent or other designated member of enforcement agencies, by the head of such agency, that the firearm is to be used by an officer or employee included in 432.21c through 432.21e.
NOTE>>>

432.23 Manufacturers, Dealers, and Importers

Handguns may also be mailed between licensed manufacturers of firearms, licensed dealers of firearms, and licensed importers of firearms in customary trade shipments, or for repairing or replacing parts.


432.24 Certificate of Manufacturers, Dealers, and Importers

A federal firearms licensee manufacturer, dealer, or importer need not file the affidavit under 432.22, but must file with the Postmaster a statement on PS Form 1508, Statement by Shipper of Firearms, signed by the mailer that he or she is a licensed manufacturer, dealer, or importer of firearms. The mailer must also state that the parcels containing handguns, or parts and components of handguns under 432.2d, are being mailed in customary trade shipments or contain such articles for repairing or replacing parts, and that to the best of their knowledge the addressees are licensed manufacturers, dealers, or importers of firearms. Registered Mail service is recommended.
Postmasters may forward an unsatisfactory mailer statement to the PCSC for a ruling.


432.25 Federal and Other Law Enforcement Agencies

[FONT=&quot]Handguns may be mailed without regard to [/FONT]432.21 through 432.24 if the item is:

  • Addressed to a scientific laboratory or crime detection bureau of any federal, state, or local law enforcement agency whose members are authorized to serve warrants of arrest or commitment.
  • Sent by an authorized agent of the federal government as an official shipment to any qualified addressee in 432.21, or to a licensed manufacturer, dealer, or importer of firearms, or to a federal agency.
 
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Unless this is out of date, your FFL is being snowed by the local office.

I'm thinking that the FFL is snowing the OP. "I can't mail guns so shipping has doubled . . ." then he trots down to the PO.
 
My recent experience with UPS; March 2022, sending a revolver to gunsmith, refused my package because I was not an FFL. After going around and around with the lady at the Chipley FL UPS, who new everything because "my husband is a FFL", she finally relented because the gunsmith is a FFL and his address is on file that the revolver was being sent to. Frustrating to say the least.

On the question: USPS I have always been under the impression they would only ship firearms for FFL, reading the above posted information are long guns good to go?
 
UPS

There is no concern for me in that respect, as I'd never ship a firearm via UPS.

I'd rather not delve into the if's and why's of that subject, but I'm fully aware of their shenanigans.

Chubbo
 
My recent experience with UPS; March 2022, sending a revolver to gunsmith, refused my package because I was not an FFL. After going around and around with the lady at the Chipley FL UPS, who new everything because "my husband is a FFL", she finally relented because the gunsmith is a FFL and his address is on file that the revolver was being sent to. Frustrating to say the least.

On the question: USPS I have always been under the impression they would only ship firearms for FFL, reading the above posted information are long guns good to go?

Yes, an individual may mail a long gun to an FFL in another state, providing that FFL will accept a long gun sent by an individual. Not all FFLs will.
 
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