Vacuum sealing for Guns

Many years ago I was into an Uzi Model A and had a full auto bolt and short barrel, plus a couple thousand rounds of Israeli steel cased 9mm. I wanted to secure a cache of ammo in a secure location. I used white sewer pipe, glued and capped one end, glued a screw on clean out plug on the other. I filled it with a couple thousand rounds of the Israeli ammo, stuffed an old gym sock in to take up empty space, screwed the cleanout in with its silicone rubber O-ring. Buried it on secure state park land and basically forgot about it for over thirty years, traded the Uzi for a very clean '55 Chevy, went on with life and then remembered the ammo and decided to go see what I could see or find if I could even find it. Went back to the site, there was no evidence I had ever been there other than a rock that didn't belong there was the marker was still there. I dug down, pulled the pipe out and opened it up, the stuff looked like the day I put it there...no Uzi though to have fun with.
Obviously, the State Park you used wasn't a former war site park. I am picturing Bubba walking through the park with his metal detector and hitting the jackpot. Of course, that could happen in any park.:D
Larry
 
I've still got USGI magazines manufactured in 1943 packed in the original Comsmoline (yesterday's RIG Universal Grease) and wrapped in a gauze type cloth and whenever I unwrap one they are brand new - no rust at all. .
That cloth you speak of is to my knowledge, wax coated and known as ordnance wrap. Or that's how it was marked anyway. Regardless, good stuff though.
Years ago, I had a co-worker that claimed he had his glock vacuum sealed and hanging in his shower in the event of home invasion while in there. Dunno about the glock but he had lotsa stories...
 
I did quite a bit of surfing on this subject. There seems to be a lot of proponents of vacuum sealing guns for long term storage.

The commonalities among those who do are: clean gun, lightly oil, introduce nitrogen into the bag and then vacuum seal it.

You have my seal of approval on this.
So where do you get the Nitrogen
 
When I was a Maintenance Foreman at the power company , I used to order dry Nitrogen by the truckload . 30 cylinders at a time . I would order it from the welding supply house . You can spec " dry Nitrogen " .
 
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I did carry an older Ruger Blackhawk sealed in a vacuum bag with my aircraft survival gear. I carried it in my Cub in Alaska for several years. One word of caution. I decided to spray the gun lightly with WD 40 before I sealed it. I removed the gun from the survival gear when I went to a break down Marlin 1895 guide gun. I was dismayed to find the WD 40 had penetrated the primers and the cartridges would not fire. So much for bear protection. I guess I could have hit the bear in the head with the Ruger .44.
 
Yup - there are all kinds of methods, but the time tested and true one I know about and have been using since 1980 is the Rig Universal Grease, waxed paper and tinfoil. I have done this not only for guns, but for fine metal instruments (Starrett and Brown & Sharp), expensive knives, irreplaceable and valuable parts, etc. I have NEVER been let down! A can of Rig is under $15 bucks, waxed paper and aluminum foil are in your kitchen and time to do this is negligible. Why even bother with more sophisticated methods that cost more money and require specialty items when for $15 bucks you are golden? Hey, if it's good enough and time proven for the Military it's good enough for us.
 
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Save the $15 and get a $4 jar of Vaseline . A guy I know showed me his collection of Browning shotguns and rifles . Rubbed down with Vaseline and shoved in a soft case . Kept them that way for years .
 
Years ago there was a model 1917 that came across G.B. It was the prettiest shade of plum I've ever seen. The surface was nearly spotless, just that pretty shade of plum. I asked the seller if he could explain the color. His reply was that someone had taken the revolver and completely submerged it in a can of automotive axle grease, it had been stored that way since the time of WWI. Early grease had sulphur in it, which could be a contributing factor, other than that I am still curious. It was pretty, the bid went over my price.
 
Paste wax will also wok as a protective coating. For sealing in a plastic bag, I would include a packet of desiccant like silica gel to absorb any humidity. Steel does not rust if the relative humidity is below 50%.
 
Years ago there was a model 1917 that came across G.B. It was the prettiest shade of plum I've ever seen. The surface was nearly spotless, just that pretty shade of plum. I asked the seller if he could explain the color. His reply was that someone had taken the revolver and completely submerged it in a can of automotive axle grease, it had been stored that way since the time of WWI. Early grease had sulphur in it, which could be a contributing factor, other than that I am still curious. It was pretty, the bid went over my price.
I have seen a lot of guns with the plum color. I understood it to be a problem with the bluing process that wouldn't show up for years.
I found this old thread explaining the problem.
Larry

What causes bluing to turn " Plum "??
 
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