Vicious dog attack in our neighborhood.

While not legal to carry in many areas, for those where it is, a sword cane would be an effective defense against a dog.





Blade above is 18".

An advantage over a handgun is no need to worry about possibly injuring others. Also, close to impossible to miss. Plus, its up to the dog whether to impale itself or not.
 
American1776, looks to me like the person that got attacked and bitten by this dog has a criminal case that can be prosecuted under PA law. I googled up a page from a law firm in PA and part of it states the following:

If a dangerous dog, through the intentional, reckless, or negligent conduct of its owner, attacks a person or domestic animal, the owner is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, and faces up to two years in prison.
If a dangerous dog, through the intentional, reckless, or negligent conduct of its owner, aggressively attacks and causes severe injury or death of a person, the owner is guilty of a misdemeanor in the first degree, and faces up to five years in prison.
If a dangerous dog is owned by a minor, the minor's parent or guardian will be liable for injuries and property damage caused by an unprovoked attack.


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So, reading that I would think the victim could press criminal charges against the owner of the vicious dog, which when convicted could receive a jail sentence of up to 5 years, depending on the severity of the attack on that person.
 
I worked with a guy who would throw "medicated" meatballs in the yards where aggressive animals lived along his mail route. These days he would be caught by a doorbell camera but in the late 1980's he was quite successful.
 
Pepper spray worked for me when a dog was trying to take part of my arm
home with him a few years back while driving through a neighborhood.
He just wasn't chasing the car and this was the second time he tried.
I would also carry a handgun in case the pepper spray didn't work!
Below is an interesting site for info on the two most dangerous dogs (pit bulls & rotties).

Be SAFE and Shoot Often!
 

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It's a shame a likely otherwise good dog has been ruined by a bad owner. It is so much worse because it is such a powerful animal.
Time for the neighborhood to become a squeaky wheel and flood the police-animal control with complaints.
 
So many things here are unacceptable. I have had mostly large dogs. My avatar, Bozo, was mean AF - part Fila, and took after that part of his ancestry. Very loving and easy to handle for us - hated everyone else. He was usually muzzled when off the property except while in the car; the vets were warned (and were thankful, they get bit a lot by dogs that don't bite); he was not allowed off lead. Period. It's called being responsible.

You come over my fence and get nailed by my dog, that's legally your fault in this state. You will likely go to jail after you get out of the hospital. Off the property - that's my fault. In this state, if you are attacked by a dog when you have the right be where you are unless you have provoked it - that's the owner's butt.

This dog needs to be controlled. The owner's conduct is simply not even close to responsible. With this history (and long before this last attack), every time that dog is off the property is a 911 call. Period. The situation is well past the point of being nice to anyone - be effective. Keep calling. Every neighbor who sees it needs to be calling 911. If there is an attack in progress, I am pretty sure it will not be stopped without a shooting. If you have not dealt with a larger strong dog that is attacking or resisting you, you have no idea what a problem you have. Making lots of 911 calls makes a record of the problem. There is a good chance of litigation. So be it.

Self-defense is pre-emptive. A dog that lunges with serious intent (like the Shepherd on the trail incident) likely needs to be shot, RFN. I am not a fan of doing so, but I am not a target nor a chew toy. Don't want to see your dog get hurt because someone could not read its language and took action? Keep your dog under control. Not a real hard concept.

Bozo's successor Ted is fascinated with other dogs. He wants to meet them, sniff, have a pissing match, etc. He has doggy pals - we go across the street to see one so it does not get in trouble for crossing to see us. Fine. Approach in an attacking mode? I'll make it clear with my voice that the dog needs to be controlled. Offend people with my attitude and language? Yup. Beats the heck out of injuries to any of us. My neighbor has two dogs - a Malamute that will happily interact with Ted and I, and a Dobe that protects the yard with ferocity. She has gotten lose twice - smart little thing. She is actually friendly, away from her turf. She gets a pet, I holler for the neighbor, they come get her.

Ruby does not care for other dogs. She was simply not socialized with them before we rescued her and it is unlikely to change. We avoid the problem areas - it's called being responsible.
 
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quote: "You come over my fence and get nailed by my dog, that's legally your fault in this state. You will likely go to jail after you get out of the hospital".

I'm pretty sure people are responsible for their dog even on their own property, but I don't know the laws of every state. If a dog mauls someone for coming over a fence the only crime he has committed is trespassing and that could just be a kid going after his baseball. Just a few bites from a big dog could turn into a very big hospital bill that the dog owner could be required to pay. My business law professor told me he once was a part owner in an auto salvage yard and they used a big dog to guard the place while they were closed. Some guy climbs the fence one night to steal auto parts and the dog mauls him and he later files a lawsuit. The owners later worked out a settlement with him that allowed him to come in the salvage yard and take all the auto parts he could carry out.
 
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It depends on the state, and lots of folks don't know much of the law. Does not matter why someone comes over the fence - it is a trespass 1 with a potential sentence of up to a year in jail. The intruder has no lawful ability to defend himself, and any attempt to use force on the dog has a good chance of converting the incident to a burglary. I do this stuff for a living, and I live in a county where we know what prisons are for, unlike the Idiocracy of the I5 Corridor. My gates are locked, the property is also posted (which with a fence is not legally required). Anyone trying to enter my property is a criminal, and I already know that. I call the cops, and insist on booking.
 
Seems to me like if something happened to that dog the only person upset about it would be the owner. It ain't the dog's fault, but in the end, choices may have to be made.
 
Hapworth-

Respectfully disagree. Things happen quickly and this dog was trying to bite. I shot the dog. Wish I didnt have to, I own a dog.

Not trying to hide anything and certainly didnt RUN.


Powerful dogs can do a lot of damage quickly. You were there and had to make a judgement fast. A confrontation with the owner of a dead dog can also be very dangerous. No need to have chanced escalating the situation further. I find it difficult to have sympathy for a irresponsible owners.
As McCloud once said when asked why he killed the suspect, he answered "because I didn't have time not to".
(That was Dennis Weaver. )


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I use a cane, for stability when out walking.

It's also not for nothing that my "cane" is actually a hickory livestock cane used for moving hogs around. Works very well as a 'Do Right' stick when needed.

Rob
I had to look that one up-had never heard it called a livestock cane before. I always thought it was just an old fashioned cane as that was what I had always seen my grandfather and dad carrying around. But then now that I think of it, My grandfather DID have a dairy farm. Learn something new every day!
 
I had to look that one up-had never heard it called a livestock cane before. I always thought it was just an old fashioned cane as that was what I had always seen my grandfather and dad carrying around. But then now that I think of it, My grandfather DID have a dairy farm. Learn something new every day!

When I was a kid I would go to the stock (cows and hogs) sale with my grandpa and his brother. There were always pin hookers there and they carried those hickory canes. I never saw one break. I have one that I carry where there are metal detectors. Larry
 
Bike daily for an hour, cover a lot of ground, wearing neoprene belly band holding an LCP loaded with 8 XTP rounds. Have zero reservations in riddling an attacking dog that makes contact.

Wife doesn't carry, so set her up with a 'screamer' worn around her neck. Pull cord and it emits an extremely high pitched sound that is supposedly very effective against four legged critters, likely two legged as well.
If she ever has to use it, suspect for the next few days whenever I ask her something the response will be "huh?"
 
Long, long ago in my past youthful excitement, I owned a squirt gun that had remarkable accuracy with a high discharge rate compared to most squirt guns. I was terrified of a particular neighborhood dog, I was helping was windows and accidently splashed a couple of drops of ammonia water in my eyes. It really hurt.

Made a small 1 cup mix of 50% water and 50% household ammonia. Got on my bicycle and went for a ride or dog hunting. I got 1 good squirt (out of 3) that got both eyes. One of the misses got the dog's nose. Dog went yelping back to his house, I pedaled down the street, and the dog never came near anyone again. Just saying, worked for me long ago.
 
Our dog was attacked by another dog while I was walking her. The other dog's owner jumped on top of his dog, his sister was there and she and I were flailing away with an aluminum LEKI walking stick. Our dog took about 3 months to heal. Our local PD said there was nothing they could do since it was "dog on dog" and no human attacked. I started carrying a stun stick along with a S&W 642 (which I was carrying the first time but did not want to use). I am going to add bear spray next time I get a chance to pick up some. I recommend American1776 get prepared now. It will be too late after your dog or daughter is attacked. And believe me, you will feel like you failed to protect them.
 
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