Vote For So-and-so. It's "For The Chillllldren!"

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I'm sick of these kids! Those unnamed phantom "straw" kids out there, I mean, who are always used as pawns to elect more taxaholics. When I hear in some ad a politician wants to make cuts in education I say "Great! I'm voting for them." If the schools suffer a little maybe they'll quit squandering the money in other places and divert it back to "the kids". If this doesn't end, these poor deprived brats will be eating cavier and lobster tails in the school lunch program while us grownups are scraping the cutting board for something to eat. I never could figure out how it helps the kids if my property taxes go up to pour more money into the teachers pensions. Or the prison guard pensions. Or that inspector playing God telling me to tear down my patio cover that's still up. Why not cut some slack on "the grownups" so we can take care of our own kids!
This is rant number two this week. See you at the gun show tomorrow.
 
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FWIW, I feel the same way, but there are not enough of us who do. It all goes back to something that happened in 1920.
 
Do you remember years ago when california was pushing to start the lotto, saying the money was for the school system? They should have had gold plated school houses for the last 25 years now! What did they do before the lotto? Look what its like now! Where is that money? I bet its really one of the biggest rip offs in the history of the world!
 
I was invovled many years ago in the investigation of a tv preacher that was asking for donations for the children of the world. He was getting millions each year. The investigation began when it was reported that most of the money went to fund his private interests. The findings by the Office fo the US Attorney handled the case and it was learned that the claim was accurate. Only about 15% of the money he raised went to the children of the world. During questioning, he freely admitted to converting the money to his own use.

He also said if a person wants to get large donations, they need to use children as the catalyst. "Want gun bans, bring the children into it," want school funding, mention it being for your childs future." He had it figured out.

We could not prosecute him after thousands of hours of work. Not one of his sermons or commericals asking for money to help the children ever said that all the money was going to children. He could have only given a dollar from the millions he collects each year and unless he says it ALL goes to the children, he could not be prosecuted.

As he said, when it is for the children, it happens.
 
Things started going down hill when the child labor laws were repealed. At least you always knew where they were, what they were doing, who they were with, and they were contributing to the economy.



(It's a joke! Lighten up, Francis!)
 
You have touched a raw nerve here. I live within spiting distance of Chicago. Every day the news from there is filled with how short of funds the school system is. Last year when they couldn't find enough funds they did a little house cleaning. 500 people in support positions were laid off. These people had absolutely no contact with kids and since they're not missed I wonder if they really had any function. Teachers in some Chicago schools are spending an average of $500 a year of their own cash for school supplies. This makes me wonder how many Chicago kids show up for school on the first day with nothing but a gun. "Parents" of these kids are so poor they can't afford a couple pencils and pens? The Chicago school system is one of the worst run in the country and has been for 30 years. Yet Arnie Duncan who was the CEO of the failing Chicago School System until last year is now US Secretary of Education! Talk about having a buddy in high places. The new CEO of schools in Chicago was the head of the Chicago Transit Authority. What credentials can a transit mgr. have to run a giant school system? The lottery in Illinois was pushed through as a primary source of money for education. I doubt those funds are being tapped for education, unless it's going to the bloated ranks of the support people. ALL new proposed tax increase's are labeled as "for children, and schools". Anybody that buys into the taxes for children BS needs their head examined.
 
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Do you remember years ago when california was pushing to start the lotto, saying the money was for the school system? They should have had gold plated school houses for the last 25 years now! What did they do before the lotto? Look what its like now! Where is that money? I bet its really one of the biggest rip offs in the history of the world!
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THANK YOU!! I'm glad someone else finally noticed this. All the proceeds from the lottery here are supposed to go to schools. They are constantly telling us how much has been raised, yet for some reason every year, the education lobby is back whinning about how they need MORE taxpayer money or they'll have to lay off teachers.

On top of that the new "guilt trip" is have school buses at every Wal-Mart, shopping mall, etc., collecting school supplies for "needy children" (or some such wording). If you don't buy notebook paper, pens, pencils and such, and donate them, you're an evil person who hates kids (Hey! I've served my sentence. You buy your own kids pencils).

I heard a radio commercial last night for Lysol germ wipes. Buy Lysol wipes and give them to the school. WHAT? I should spend my money so (1) Lysol can make money, and (2) Lysol can indirectly at least, get credit for "donating" germ wipes to school? WIN-WIN for them!!

By crackey...whippersnappers...not like this in my day I tellya...young people...it's Roos-er-velts fault I tellya...uphill...both ways...in the snow!
 
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Not only do voters here keep getting guilt tripped by the "for the kids" scam, look at the gas taxes in California. Out of the $3 a gallon more than half goes to "fix the roads". Yeah, right! Then how come you-know-who said this was the "summer of recovery" because stimulous money, yeah, new money, was going to go to fixing the roads.
And what if the kids actually were in need a little. Abe Lincoln did pretty good walking miles to school and using that single candle to do his homework. He wasn't sitting around all night texting Stephen Douglas about how hot that new chick in school Mary was. So even if the kids nowadays were in need, well, tell them to need a little less. Ever heard of whitebread, peanut butter and jelly?! And get a paper route if you have more needs to satisfy. "Billy needs a new laptop, dear!" "No problem, honey. We can afford it since our neighbors tax dollars have been feeding him at school every day. And can I borrow your Lexus? I want to go to the country club. My BMW is in getting a tune up."
 
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Here in DE we get to vote of local school taxes through referendums, but also, you only have to be 18 to vote and of course you don't have to pay school (property) taxes to vote either. When a district wants more money, they hold a referendum, get the high schoolers of age to vote and of course anyone else who is unaffected. The few times a referendum fails will result in a new one being held in just 3 months and continue this way until it passes.

Whenever a referendum is looming there is constant propaganda telling us of impending cuts in sports, music etc - curiously never a mention of cutting administrative positions.

The result is that our school taxes have gone up about 240% in the last 10 years - and the average cost to educate one public school student is about $12,000+ per year.
 
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The new CEO of schools in Chicago was the head of the Chicago Transit Authority. What credentials can a transit mgr. have to run a giant school system?
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That is all part and parcel of what now passes for management that says you don't need to know anything about what the people you manage do; all you need to know is how to manage people. What this is, is justification for people who don't know anything about anything to hang on to their positions.

I recently had a gripe with an Atlanta based airline. I went through their corporate organization chart to find someone, anyone, with "customer service" as their responsibility in their title. I found nothing of the sort. I found a guy with experience working at Krispy Kreme donuts prior to going to work at the airline.

No one whose resume I read seemed to have any previous experience or interest in aviation; they all came from other fields, like banking, law, and of course, Big Donuts. Gone are the days of Juan Tripp, Robert Six, C. R. Smith, Jack Frye, and others who knew aviation. Now the upper suites are filled with Ivy-League Business School pinheads.

The field of education is no different. Throw money at schools is all we hear, yet some kids I've talked to don't even know who won the Civil War.
 
School taxes are going up everywhere I pay them, and I don't have any kids! The elementary schools have now told parents that they have to send their kids to school with not only pencils and paper, but antisceptic wipes, napkins and paper plates for snack time!

I have a good friend that I graduated college with that is now an art teacher in the public schools here. She has to buy art supplies out of her own pocket and bring them to school with her or the students would have no materials with which to work. There is something very wrong with that.

The more money that is being poured into the school system, the less materials they have. Oh, BTW, you Chicago folks should be all set once Rahm takes over as mayor. ;) Talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire!!!:eek:


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Wheelgunner840 said:
I have a good friend that I graduated college with that is now an art teacher in the public schools here. She has to buy art supplies out of her own pocket and bring them to school with her or the students would have no materials with which to work. There is something very wrong with that.

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But I'll bet the athletics department is still going full tilt. That's the way it is around here. I checked one of the kids elementary school yearbook. For a school of about 400 kids in seven grades, they had 42 "extra" people on the staff, in addition to the teachers who actually taught grades K-6. When I went to the same school, we had eight teachers for eight grades and 2/3's the number of kids. And when I got out, I actually knew who won the Civil War.
 
I won't take this thread too far off topic. Everybody feels if Rahm Emanuel runs he will win. It looks like more people are running for mayor than Carters' got pills. They may all split the vote up so severely that he will win with a normally low majority. Daley is out of favor with Chicagoans because his giant gentrification project has fallen on it's butt, due to the failure of the housing market. High taxes and CRIME are problem Daley cannot cure. I wasn't surprised he's not running again. The next mayor (even if he's BHO's buddy) cannot unite all the fragmented minority's like Daley has in the past. Rahm must be crazy (especially with his personality) to want the job.
 
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The Lottery Money for schools is usually used to push the bill thru and get it passed. It sounds good, but what they leave out it that in most states the amount of money that the states give to the schools from tax money, general funds etc it CUT BY THE AMOUNT THE LOTTERY BRINGS IN which allows the politicians to spend it elsewhare or line their pockets with it.
I have yet to see anywhere that actually increased school spending based on lottery money.
 
BarbC said:
Things started going down hill when the child labor laws were repealed. At least you always knew where they were, what they were doing, who they were with, and they were contributing to the economy.



(It's a joke! Lighten up, Francis!)
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I totally agree! When I put on my Chinese made knock-off sneakers I can't help but think how much those Chinese six year olds who made them must appreciate the three cents a day they make. What a great work ethic.
 
Wyatt Burp said:
I totally agree! When I put on my Chinese made knock-off sneakers I can't help but think how much those Chinese six year olds who made them must appreciate the three cents a day they make. What a great work ethic.
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I must agree. The originals, that the knock offs are knocked of from, are made in Indonesia were labor costs have skyrocketed to $0.13 an hr..
 
When were those child labor laws made? In 1953 when I was 12 I was right there out in the fields alongside the brazzero,s picking cukes! I worked every summer in the fields from then on. It was my choice if I wanted some money! Most of us kids did it those days in wisconsin. Anyone could get a job in the fields in those days. I didnt like it, hated it, but did it!
 
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