Wanna see what's wrong with the legal profession?

The bottom has fallen out of the job market for law school graduates. Valparaiso University in Indiana and Whittier College in California have closed their law schools, saw a news story in the NY Times which said law school applications have have declined steadily for 10 years or so. In 2011 only 39.8% of New York Law School's graduates found jobs, that school was sued by some of them claiming they were misled on employment opportunities. A few years ago one successful attorney told me if you don't go to a top tier law school, graduate in the top 50% or have a job lined up at a family firm, it's not worth it. One friend, recently retired from the election law division of the Attorney General's department here in NJ said the old "revolving door" between public service and private practice is long closed, she has a 2 year restriction.
 
He is everywhere!!


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Met our Burgh's ambulance chasing lawyer "........ no fee unless we get money for you!" His 1st wife did PR and did his Ad campaign back in the 70s.

Advertising is key; they need a lot of volume and "unsophisticated" clients. They cull the clients/cases for the easy settlement cases, and take their 40%. Hard cases, unless they are really big $$$$s, they pass!

Ins Co. will calculate the cost of not settling or defending..... add it to their settlement offer and throw that out on the table to close the file!

With legal costs at $$$s per hour that can quickly add big $$$$$s to the claim costs.
 
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Part of it is certainly attorneys, but a lot of it is people who want to get something for nothing, and don't mind lying to get it. Disability programs like the ones from the Social Security Administration have run wild.

Thought about, and came back to edit before the "dang government crowd" jumps in.

Like a lot of things the original law was needed and a benefit for workers. But over decades lawsuits have been filed and won, expanding the meaning of what it means to be disabled. So people, whether lawyers or deadbeats, keep expanding the circle.

I don't want to paint with too broad of a brush. I'd say at least a third of the recipients are truly disabled.
 
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Other than real estate transactions and estate planning I’ve only needed an attorney to “handle” something a couple times. It’s easy to bad mouth them. But when you need one you sing their praises.
 
I think that a lot of lawyers are getting real busy these days with constitutional issues. The courts as well.

Tom H.
 
Well there are over 1 million Lawyers in the US (Population roughly 350 million) and 90,000 in Japan (population around 125 million). Does this tell you something? Dave_n
 
My oldest son's wife was raised in Germany, she is a "Certified Office Manager," When my son got a job in the Philly area, she got a job at a Law firm with 5 lawyers. She kept the NON-ESCROW books, ordered supplies and did client billing. The firm swears that 60% of their business is in TRO's (Temporary Restraining Orders), most commonly against adult next-door neighbors! (Unruly kids are better than nosey neighbor!)

We, as a family, had apartments for 65 years. (One of my nephews still does office buildings) We had two kinds of lawyers on speed dial. One was to evict deadbeats. The other was to defend us when deadbeats sued us. Both those guys were great and made their money being low cost and high volume.

Our other attorney was several hundred an hour, (never on speed dial!) and did our acquisitions and sales, along with our personal trusts & wills, and an occasional lawsuit or defense thereof!

ever None of these guys advertise or needed to! Nobody on the street recognizes them or their names, all the ambulance chasers know them and avoid them like the plague!

If you are actually paying, you get what you pay for!

Ivan
 
Someone once told me that there is something known as the "American Law." In any other country if an individual or attorney brings up a frivolous lawsuit the judge will have them pay all the court costs, etc. Defining what is frivolous is probably the problem but its only in this country that you can get away with that and we all know that is a major source of the problem.
 
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