Wanted a Sigma ended up with a SD..with pics Sigma vs SD

[3hounds]

Hey cbr6864

You mention the striker is looser inside the slide channel compared to the sigma.

Is the channel bigger or the striker smaller compared to the sigma ?

I know my SD40VE striker has a lot of side play in the channel.

I don't like it either.

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[MSG Glenn]

I'm glad that you're happy with your SD. I have my Sigma temporarily until my M&P 40C gets delivered & it seems that all that was wrong with it are corrected in the SD. My neighbor wanted it so bad he paid for it already & technically it's his. SD is Still a good budget handgun but better.

I'm not carrying the Sigma much these days because I'm trying to keep the Sigma as new as possible. I've had it for about 14 months & found that it's a lot of gun for the money. Now I carry my FS M&P 40 & the trigger is worlds better than the Sigma's which really never bothered me. It smoothed out well with use but still just a little bit gritty.

Happy SD shooting! You have a winner.

 

[3hounds]

I'm glad that you're happy with your SD. I have my Sigma temporarily until my M&P 40C gets delivered & it seems that all that was wrong with it are corrected in the SD. My neighbor wanted it so bad he paid for it already & technically it's his. SD is Still a good budget handgun but better.

I'm not carrying the Sigma much these days because I'm trying to keep the Sigma as new as possible. I've had it for about 14 months & found that it's a lot of gun for the money. Now I carry my FS M&P 40 & the trigger is worlds better than the Sigma's which really never bothered me. It smoothed out well with use but still just a little bit gritty.

Happy SD shooting! You have a winner.

How's the M&P carry compared to the sigma ?

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[MyDogReese]

OK, I hate to break up the love-fest, but these are both inferior pistols.

The M&P handguns (all versions) are so much better that I don't know why S&W still makes the Sigma. I had the opportunity to try out most of the M&P line during a combat training course and I was very impressed. There is no comparison, except maybe price and saving a few bucks on a tool that you may have rely upon to save your life is not a good idea.

bring on the flames...

 

[Short Bus Driver]

 

[ginzo]

Can't speak for that line of pistols, but I choose an M & P 40 FS. I like it so much I just ordered a 40c. The FS has been flawless so far. About 500 rounds through it.

OK, I hate to break up the love-fest, but these are both inferior pistols.

The M&P handguns (all versions) are so much better that I don't know why S&W still makes the Sigma. I had the opportunity to try out most of the M&P line during a combat training course and I was very impressed. There is no comparison, except maybe price and saving a few bucks on a tool that you may have rely upon to save your life is not a good idea.

bring on the flames...

 

[GKC]

OK, I hate to break up the love-fest, but these are both inferior pistols.

Gee, you joined 10 years ago, and THIS is your first post?

I hate to break it to you, but your opinion isn't going to change my mind. You are entitled to your opinion, of course...as we are ours.

 

[GKC]

Here's a video showing what a superior shooter can do with one of these "inferior" guns...

SD9VE 9mm (Close-up ) - YouTube

It's not the right gun for everyone...that's why we have so many choices, and I'm glad we do! It's not a bad gun for the purpose for which it was designed. Like I've said before, it's not a 1911 (what else is?)...but it's a good gun nevertheless.

 

[cbr6864]

Hey cbr6864

You mention the striker is looser inside the slide channel compared to the sigma.

Is the channel bigger or the striker smaller compared to the sigma ?

I know my SD40VE striker has a lot of side play in the channel.

I don't like it either.

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I sold my Sigma so I can not compare the two

 

[langshan]

I have one, pleased with it. Some play, but overall I like it. I would like to get an M@P in 45 and 22, then that would be it for me. I also have a 22 Smith and Wesson target that shoots very well.

 

[MSG Glenn]

How's the M&P carry compared to the sigma ?

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Sorry for the delay in answering. Been a busy couple of weeks & actually got some paying work in.

Carry feels very similar. At times I'll have to check to see which one is in the holster that day, lol.

The Sigma is just a little shorter than the M&P but both fit the same holsters good. I get an extra round with the M&P giving me 15+1 instead of 14+1. M&P has a better trigger. It's totally stock as it was a police issue. I bought it from a PO friend who bought his back after being issued a new one. The M&P 40 came with Trijicon night sights which are nice. The front sight will need changing in a couple of years if not sooner. It's not quite as bright as the rear sight. No big deal for daytime shooting. Another good thing about buying a PD issue is the three mags I get with it. An X Grip & I'll be able to use the same mags in my M&P 40C but I can use them without them as well.

M&Ps have an actual standard picatinny rail giving a better choice in accessories like flashlights & lasers

Overall I'd say the M&P is superior to the Sigma. The difference in new selling price should dictate the superiority. $300 for the Sigma, $455 new at the LEO/Military/Security price including Trijicons & 3 mags for the M&P, $390 for the used one I bought. I still like the Sigma & if I didn't need the money for my M&P 40C I would have kept it. Besides my neighbor was bugging me for it.

I shoot both well & expect to shoot the compact just as well. Compacts sell for the same LEO price in either 9MM or .40S&W as the FS. I'm well used to Sigma's trigger & it doesn't bother me in the least with no mods whatsoever. If I were to keep it I might take a spring or two off of it but as a carry gun it's more than adequate.

I bought the Sigma after giving my Glocks (G23 & G21) to my son & needed a weapon after Wisconsin got a concealed carry law. The Glocks were my duty weapons when I was doing armed security. I think you'd have to look far & wide to find a gun of that quality for the price of $300 which included an Uncle Mike's holster & a box of 50 American Eagle rounds. If I started working armed security again I wouldn't hesitate carrying one after putting many rounds through it to be sure I could trust it just like I do with any other gun.

 

[PlainOleDave]

I have the Sigma (with trigger spring replacement) and am Currently trying to justify gittin' the SD. If'n the M&Ps are that much better than both, I don't c the need to have a Sigma and an SD. Perfectly happy with Siggy.
Somebody posted that they do what they are made for but still insisted that the M&P was better (for S.D.) but if the Sigma doesn't have durability issues or malfunctions, what's wrong with leaning on it for S.D?!?

 

[revjames]

thank I thought it was but wasn't 100% sure. I do know that I like it... now looking for a laser for it. I know there's alot of them out there can't decide if I like the one that replaces the sights or the tlr3 with the light and laser any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated. Didn't mean to hijack the thread

Is the weapon used for home defense? If so, I recommend TLR4 laser light combo. I love the fact that it is so simple to remove and install. I take mine off for most target shooting. I love the fact I can temporarily blind an aggressor, and the quick target acquisition a laser offers. The laser does maintain "zero" even after removal and reinstallation. I feel the light gives me a huge tactical advantage in the darkness of night. Does it signal my location? Yes, But once the light hits someone in face, they can't see anything else for a few moments. Enough time to place the laser center mass and end the situation.

 

[GKC]

Somebody posted that they do what they are made for but still insisted that the M&P was better (for S.D.) but if the Sigma doesn't have durability issues or malfunctions, what's wrong with leaning on it for S.D?!?

Nothing!

M&Ps do have a better trigger out of the box than do Sigmas, SDs, and SDVEs. The grip (back strap) is adjustable on M&Ps, while it isn't on these other models. I don't like the plastic recoil guide rod assembly, but I replaced that with a stainless steel guide rod assembly from Galloway Precision. I replaced the plastic rear sight with a steel rear sight from a M&P. I also replaced the take down lever with an extended take down lever. The only thing I don't care for on the SDVE is the slide stop...it does seem flimsy and cheap, compared to the M&P line.

None of these changes I made make the gun any more reliable...they were personal preference. The SDVE pistols are very reliable, and solid shooters. The main issue is, can YOU manage it? If you can't manage the trigger (and personally, I don't believe in modifying the trigger/fire control group) and some cannot, then it's not the gun for you. You may be able to manage the M&P trigger better...and if so, then that's the gun for you, or any other pistol that you can shoot effectively.

The gun itself is reliable...but it you and the gun are just not a match, for whatever reason, then it's not a good gun for you.

 

[22corn]

Great thread. I'm personally considering the sigma and SD in 9mm for a home defense handgun but am concerned with the trigger. Both feel good in my hand but for the money, durability, trigger pull and overall quality I'm going to have to move up to the M&P 9c. For me it's worth the money!