We had threads on bear, armadillo and coyote guns...how about a rat gun?

Andy Griffith

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They need John Wayne in Bangladesh:
"Mr. Rat...
I have writ here says you're to stop eat'n Chen Lee's cornmeal forthwith.
Now, it's a rat-writ writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of same.

[turning to Mattie]
See, doesn't pay any attention to me."

*BANG*
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I just read a news story where Bangladesh government officials gave a Farmer a 14" color TV for killing the most rats- in a nine month period- 83,450!

He used poison, and the runner-up farmer used traps.

I have had great sport shooting those low-down rats from a tractor when using the bushog mowing the field off with .22 crimped shot from a S&W 34 or a Ruger Bearcat. I hope to try it with my .410 Judge in the spring.

I've always wanted to try one of those 9mm rimfire shotguns on them too- like a Winchester 36 or one of the modern Italian guns...

However, a .45 Colt does work in a pinch. ;)

So...what would you use as a rat gun? ;)
 
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I live in the wooded mountains of the Blue Ridge, where we have a species known as the "wood rat." They're huge!

I came home one day to find one in the middle of my kitchen, eating food out of the cat's dry food dish, with three cats watching from a respectful distance :eek:.

This critter was not intimidated by my presence. He glanced up when I came into the room, and immediately returned to stuffing his face. This gave me the opportunity to walk into the study, and pick up whatever was close at hand -- it happened to be a Model 41. Returning to the kitchen I shot him in the head from a distance of 8 or 10 feet. DRT (dead right there). The bullet did not exit, so no hard to explain damage to my kitchen floor.

I hate rats. I'd use whatever was immediately available to dispatch them.


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Once we had a rat sitting in his hole right under the cinder block used as a step into the chicken coop. You could see his beady eyes. My ex shot him with the Model 10, then kicked the dirt into the hole. All done!
 
We have wood rats here, quite large. Our Siamese thinks they are prime prey, he waits for them to emerge from the ground cover, and then it's all done in a matter of seconds. The Bobcats usually wait for the rats to emerge, needless to say they seldom miss. My sister's terrier loves to hunt them in the foot high ground cover he pounces on the spot where he hears motion, unfortunately he hasn't figured out the right amount to lead the rat, and usually misses.
The Hawks have to wait until the rat comes out, but if it's a foot or so out of cover it is lunch
The best hunter we have is the local Indigo Snake; it follows the rat trails into the ground cover.
 
My elderly neighbor learned that he needed a rat gun.
While his wife was in the next room sewing and he was in bed, he felt something walking on the bed. Startled, he sat up and caught a glimpse of a rat running out of the room.
His wife told him to calm down, She tried to convince him that it was a dream.
After he finally fell asleep, the rat returned and bit his nose, hard.
They found the rat in the kitchen, where it ran into a gap in the cabinet toekick.
A flashlight found the rat cowering in the corner. His wife handed him an old pellet rifle and he gave the rat two good hits. Since the rat had stopped moving his wife insisted on removing it.
With his arm extended through the gap, he got ahold of the tail and started to pull it out.
The rat revived and ran up his arm and back out into the kitchen. Of course his arm got stuck in the hole during the panic.
Wife killed the rat with the phone book.
Moral - you need a big heavy projectile.
 
I killed a lot of them when I was a kid at our dump; probably killed most of them with a Remington Nylon 66. Good fun, wish I still had the opportunity to go to a dump and shoot rats.
 
"RAT" Gun

When I lived in a small N.C. town I was on the reserve police force and the city dump was open and the rats were very prolific. I requested and received the city official's permission to contribute to the demise of the rodent population there, I proceeded to spend many a late Sunday afternoon and evening at the dump dispatching as many as I could. Used a pre-model 17 and an old battery powered head light strapped by elastic to my forehead. The time spent improved my skill with a revolver and the "Rat's" numbers were decreased though they were never in danger of becoming extinct. That is my "Rat Gun" story, miss those days.
 
I killed a lot of them when I was a kid at our dump; probably killed most of them with a Remington Nylon 66. Good fun, wish I still had the opportunity to go to a dump and shoot rats.

+1,000.

Guess many of us more 'experienced people' enjoyed that in the distant past. A hillside, big depression, etc. used as the town dump, and the rats loved it. What a way to spend the afternoon, still shots, running shots, with whatever you chose to use, and it was appreciated rather than the present encounter with a LEO if you even think about such a thing.

We had a recent small town sheriff report in the local paper, deputy answered a compliant about someone shooting in the woods (actually a swamp, next to a river). The report said he explained to the compliantant that the area was a designated game management area, and hunting season was open so there was nothing going on that was wrong. Next week the sheriffs report was that a compliantant called, told the sheriff to stop the hunting on the game management area, as it was just wrong. Report said the compliantant was referred to the state legislature representative as this was where they had to call if they had a problem like this.

Life is different now, not necessarily better either.
 
We used to shoot them at the local dump. The weapon of choice was the one we had. Since we were impoverished (or thought we were), we used what we had. In my case it was an ancient pump up pellet rifle. One of my buddies had a full auto (he wished) pump daisy. He could pull a Win M12 and hold the trigger back and pump. Lots of BBs flying, few hits. The pellet rifle was single shot, and you had to work to get 7 full pumps. But it was more accurate than me, so it didn't much matter. My range wasn't all that far, and I chose to only shoot the ones up close.

For a while the local PD hated it. I think what the one worthless cop hated was kids. He wasn't the chief, and the chief loved kids. The kids loved him back... go figure. We were given permission to walk out of town to the dump with our artillery. I had a tattered old note. When it finally melted, the chief gave us each a note saying he approved! My problem was pellets were ungodly expensive. A tin of them was just out of my price range, so I had to rely on charity, welfare, begging, you name it.

The dump operator hated rats. It was our salvation. He even supplied some pellets from time to time. When we got a little older and were allowed to use 22s, he furnished some of them, too. All he wanted to do was make sure we were shooting in a safe direction, and aiming. Once he saw how careful we were, he became our fast friend. No one else was allowed to pick the dump for goodies. We were. Particularly 2 cent pop bottles. He understood the money went to soft drinks and ammo. Even in the 1950s there were people who would rather throw away a deposit bottle than redeem it. I liked those kind.

When my dad finally agreed to let me use the terrible Marlin/Glenfield bolt gun, or lives changed. The neighbor gave me a scope for it. A 4x one, too. It had a 3/4" tube, part of which was frosted, but you could see the crosshairs, and it pretty much shot where it was aimed. Rats began dying at an ever farther range. I think they were smart, and didn't show themselves up close to where we were. The ones farther away could play at their leisure. Until we started thinning them. We used that rifle until we were maybe 18 and moved up to T-Bolt 22s. That set a new standard of accuracy, but the dump didn't want us to shoot there anymore. I think a business down the road complained.

We even contemplated finding some old food and making a bread crumb trail from the dump to their back dock! :)

The key we discovered is when you hike a few miles in the summer, carrying your gun, a canteen (can you imagine any kids today drinking water from anything but a bottle?), and your lunch in a knapsack, and when you left home you knew you only had 5 or 10 shots, you made each count. There even were days when the critters hid and we didn't shoot more than once or twice (actually, the term we used then was "twicet".) Limiting your shooting to certain shots, and not wasting it blasting away taught you to shoot. We were shocked a few times when rich kids showed up with a full brick of 22s and emptied it in an hour or two. We hit more with 10 shots than they did with 500. But they probably had more fun.

We had concluded they were rich because if they dropped a loaded shell on the ground, they wouldn't bother to pick it up, they just pulled another out of their pockets. Then they'd leave and we'd scarf up their leftovers from the ground. Worked out well for us. I think it kind of hurt my dad's feelings when we told him about it. He had more pride than I had. In retrospect, he had a better job than their fathers had, and our house was paid for, as was our car. Funny how that works.
 
I can remember going over to a friends house and watching him dispatch rats with a Winchester Model 61 pump, boy what a nice gun.
 
These rat shooting stories bring back lots of nice memories. I got my first 22 rifle for my ninth birthday. It was a single shot Ithaca model 49 and dad said I had to buy my own shells which cost .49 cents for a box. He said he would pay me 10 cents for every rat I killed at the barn and because mon HATED snakes, a $1. for every snake I shot. Needless to say I spent a lot of time "hunting" and for a nine year old I made some real money. Not only did I buy my shells but made enough to buy a Johnson fishing real which I was very proud of. I just wish kids today had such opportunities today. If they were out killing rats, they might not be killing each other.
 
Rat Guns

My first cousin and I grew up on the same street in Lockport, NY. His dad, a DDS, was into firearms and reloading. He had purchased a nice Springfield '03-A4 [yes, sniper]in an old Springfield sporter stock with a Lyman short-slide peep sight. He had also acquired a large quantity of LC 42 [as I recall] FMJ ball 30-'06 ammo. Shortly, at age 18, I bought a 1917 Eddystone Enfield '06. This is about 1957.

We drove in style in my Model A ford Tudor and had a field day in the local private sandpit and dump. His dad knew the guy, I guess. Running shots on the rats were a specialty. MANY rounds expended. All of course with little or no hearing protection. When were were careful we would use an empty 38 Special case screwed into each ear, which dulled the ear-splitting roar of the '06s in the sandpit with some effectiveness. I can see the two rifles if I care to from where I am seated, and my ears are still ringing...

The second weapon of choice was his dad's WWII Colt 45 ACP, but it was hard indeed to do running shots with that gun. Our 22s, a single shot Savage 3D and a Springfield clip 22 were also-rans in the firepower department.

We later reloaded those LC42 cases with IMR 3031 and 110 gr Sierra HPs for woodchucks. Why be undergunned? [At least we did 'til his dad
started with 244 Ackley Improved chuck rifles. Still got one of those.]

Back to the point - A lot of fun, a lot of bonding and a lot of dead rats..

Best,

Dyson
 
One night when I was a rookie policeman on midnight shift, my FTO got approval for us to go to the adjoining city that had the municipal dump. There we met three other cars from various departments, all rookies and training officers, and parked side-by-side; lighting up the dump with high beam headlights and spotlights. The beady eyes of rats glowed red in the massed lights, and we had a great time perfecting our handgun and reloading skills against something other than paper targets. I was a pretty good shot for a rookie, at least good enough that I only got that one opportunity to go to the dump for practice. As a progressed in seniority, I learned that the dump sessions were an informal evaluation tool used by the local FTOs for new officers. All I remember is it was great fun.
 
I too remember the county dump and my 10/22. alas those days are past and I can only get vicarious pleasure now from watching the cat, while I stand coyote guard.
Think what I could do with a Red Dot and that now much modified 10/22, progress ain't what it's cracked up to be.
 
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