What are you shooting in your 625?

[cowboy4evr]

There is some bad info being posted here . Cast bullet size is not determined by the size of the cylinder throats . There's a " piece of pipe " in front of the cylinder called a barrel . It's the " groove " diameter of the barrel + 1-2 thousandths more for the proper cast bullet size . If the cylinder throats are smaller than that measurement , then they need to be reamed out . Don't just take it for granted the barrel is the size that it's " supposed " to be . It needs to be slugged for the groove diameter and also a slug driven all the way down the barrel to determine if there is a tight spot where they roll stamped the markings on the side of the barrel or a tight spot at the junction where the barrel threads onto the frame causing a choke . I had a Smith 25-10 that the groove diameter was .4535 , not the published .452 like we are told . It also had a terrible tight spot where the barrel threaded onto the frame caused by over tightening the barrel to index the front sight to the rear . It " choked " down the slug driven down the barrel to .448 from .4535 . Cast bullets size .454 just did work . I had fire lap the barrel to remove the barrel " tight spot " and had to ream out the cylinder throats . Then, yes then the accuracy improved greatly .
Remember gentlemen , " Fit is King " concerning cast bullets . If you doubt anything that I have posted , go to " LBT Molds " website and read his articles . Veral Smith is probably the most well known authority on shooting cast bullets in revolvers , semi auto's and yes , rifles . Regards , Cowboy4evr

 

[rockquarry]

A bit off topic here, but regarding Veral Smith... his booklet, "Jacketed Performance with Cast Bullets" may still be available; very worthwhile reading for anyone with a serious interest in cast bullet accuracy, handgun or rifle.

I haven't checked in quite a while, but LBT has or had a website.

 

[ontargetagain]

I have a nice combo with Badman coated 200gr SWC's with between 4.5-4.7gr of HP38. Also same load with Missouri 200gr SWC 'non grooved' coated bullets.

My 625 is the Model of 1989, 5" and my favorite shoorter!
Karl

 

[zeke]

If your cylinder throats are oversized to your bullets, you are unlikely to get any degree of decent accuracy, no matter what your lands dia is. The bullets are unlikely to come out of the cylinder straight. Unless you start casting bullets specifically for the situation. Like ones that the base will expand to fit.

Well known problem with some older revolvers, where cylinder mouths were .454 and up, or .434 and up.

 

[cowboy4evr]

The above post (Zeke)is not correct . My 25-5 has over size throats and is one of THE most accurate revolvers I have . John Linebaugh addressed this problem in an article stating that over size throats are not that serious of a problem like some think . My bullets are not soft . If you were shooting directly out of the cylinder , to the target , then yes but there is a little piece of pipe in front of the cylinder called a barrel . That is where the accuracy is made , or lost . Undersize throats will affect accuracy , not over size , within reason . My post is based on " actual " experience . Not just repeating internet myths .

 

[AR_Black]

Picked up this 625-2 "Model of 1989" a few years ago. That was a very good year for me, and I always wanted one of these. Replaced the front sight with a green fiber optic.

.45 ACP - 200 grain plated Ranier TC reloads, full moon clips, very mild. 3.8 grains Bullseye. Target load, drops 5-inches @ 25-yards. I could adjust the rear sight, but the pistol zeroed for my hunting load....

.45 Auto Rim - 250-grain lead Keith flat nose reloads with 7.0 grains Unique. Stout. I can hit the six-inch plate @ 100 yards at the club consistently with this one, holding over one bead.

Shot a deer at 75 yards last year using my 45 Auto Rim loads, one shot, dropped on the spot. I carved a notch in the grip. AND I'm going deer hunting this Friday, hope to get another notch at my secret spot

 

[pdcrig]

Thanks for all the info gentlemen. I've ordered some 200gr Bayous. We'll see how they work.

 

[zeke]

Sorry internet cowboy, am not using someone elses internet posting. Will continue to disagree with you. To get decent accuracy from oversize throats, you need appropriately sized bullets, or they need to expand alittle.

 

[Bugkiller99]

I've had similar performance from a similar load:
Xtreme .45 acp (.451" diameter) 200 gr copper plated SWC with W-231 4.6 gr.

I'd like to try Missouri Bullet Company Hi-Tek coated .45 acp "button" (.452 diameter) 185 grain SWC. If anyone reading this has tried this, or a similar, Missouri Bullet Company coated .45 acp bullet please weigh in.

I never had success with the Missouri 185 gr button. Went through an entire box trying to find the right combination of powder, crimp, etc.
Many people love them, I'm not one fo them

 

[cowboy4evr]

Zeke , I'm not just an internet cowboy ! It's how I made a living , raised a family in Az and NM . I carried an 1894 Winchester in 38-55 , later switched to a 30-30 . Last ranch I was on I had 4 horses and mule for my daily needs covering that ranch — just under 20 sections .
I posted that my personal experience is where I'm coming from . I can and have backed it up . Believe what you want but the facts are there . I'm done here .

 

[g8rb8]

Posted 11-12-2017
I'd like to try Missouri Bullet Company Hi-Tek coated .45 acp "button" (.452 diameter) 185 grain SWC. If anyone reading this has tried this, or a similar, Missouri Bullet Company coated .45 acp bullet please weigh in.

Posted 11-17-2017
I never had success with the Missouri 185 gr button. Went through an entire box trying to find the right combination of powder, crimp, etc.
Many people love them, I'm not one fo them

I know this post is essentially finished but for anyone reading this and for Bugkiller99:

After no replies to my question after a couple of day I bought Missouri Bullet Company Hi-Tek coated .45 acp 185 gr SWC "Button" bullets and shot 60 rounds yesterday and they performed very well with 4.9 grains of W231 with C.O.L. of 1.135".