I have a 6 inch barreled triple lock six shot swing out 22 revolver.no model on it.it says 22 long rifle ctg on the right side of barrel, left side of barrel says smith and wesson.looks to be a 22 on a 38 frame.I noticed 3 of the cylnder holes were drilled to fit 22 mag,is this something the coon hunters did?thats the story i hear from the guy i got it from.is there a place i can order another cylnder for it?and what is this model.#662xxx under shell ejector.inside under where cylnder closes it says #122xx.then #on cylnder says #652xxx.adjustable sights and windage.thats all thats on it.walnut grips,with S and W logo on top of grips.what model is it and again,where can i get another cylnder? [email protected]
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It sounds like you may have a K22 revolver.
Please provide the serial number from the butt, including any letter, like a "K". If you like, for privacy sake, you can X-out the last 2 or 3 digits of th the SN. For example, K123xxx.
Oh, by the way, S&W only built one revolver that was referred to as a "triple lock". That was the New Century, built from 1908 to 1915, on the N frame. The N frame was the basis for the Model 29 .44 Magnum. The New Century or Triple lock had a locking point at the rear of the cylinder, at the front of the cylinder, and at the front of the yoke-rear of the barrel shroud. Your .22 has only the front and rear locking points.
It sounds like you may have a K22 revolver.
Please provide the serial number from the butt, including any letter, like a "K". If you like, for privacy sake, you can X-out the last 2 or 3 digits of th the SN. For example, K123xxx.
Oh, by the way, S&W only built one revolver that was referred to as a "triple lock". That was the New Century, built from 1908 to 1915, on the N frame. The N frame was the basis for the Model 29 .44 Magnum. The New Century or Triple lock had a locking point at the rear of the cylinder, at the front of the cylinder, and at the front of the yoke-rear of the barrel shroud. Your .22 has only the front and rear locking points.
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Did you mean to list two different serial #s 662XXX and 652 XXX?
Well that's a very interesting modified piece and pictures would be especially helpful.
Here's what I can tell you: there were no 22 Triple locks made and it would have to be an N frame to be a true factory TL and that serial would eliminate that possibility. If it's an I frame that would also eliminate a TL unless you're referring to a custom yoke ball detent as the 3rd lock.
Therefore my best logical deduction based on the serial# would be a pre war K frame K22 Outdoorsman with three chambers re-chambered to 22 Mag.
A new cylinder would not be hard to find, just google S&W parts and check the on-line auctions and advertise in this forum. Or send back to Smith.
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theres no k 22 model on this gun.the # on the butt is a tiny 6 then 620xx.three of the places where you put the bullets hold a 22 mag shell,one of the holes is not drilled all the way,shell only goes in half way.the other three shell holes are for a long rifle and fit fine.they fit flush in clyinder.you think some one drilled this out?did smith and wesson make a cylinder with three 22 mag holes and three regular 22 long rifle holes?Oh,the gun on top of this page is the gun i have here.what is it?no blueing left but functions.whats it worth?and where can i get a new cylinder at for it?
It's almost certainly a K-22 Outdoorsman, a model that was made between 1931 and 1939. The .22 WMR did not exist at that time, so the cylinder modifications happened at least 20 years after the gun was manufactured. You might be able to get a replacement cylinder for this gun from any of three suppliers of old parts: Dave Chicoine (oldwestgunsmith.com), Jack First Gun in South Dakota, or Poppert's Gun Parts in PA. The latter two have web sites, but you'll have to look them up.
With no original finish left and a user-modified cylinder it has no collector value. As a shooter it might be worth $150-250. An unmodified Outdoorsman with worn finish might bring $400-500 in the right market as these are in demand collectibles. I don't think you can get out of it the same amount of money you would put into improving it. A replacement cylinder might be a drop-in fix, or it might require fitting by a gunsmith. Don't let anyone talk you into a postwar cylinder. You need a cylinder for a K-22 first model, or K-22 Outdoorsman as it said on the box.
This gun should have some patent dates stamped on the top of the barrel. If the barrel has a grooved rib on top and no patent dates, we have not yet correctly identified it. We need more information.
With no original finish left and a user-modified cylinder it has no collector value. As a shooter it might be worth $150-250. An unmodified Outdoorsman with worn finish might bring $400-500 in the right market as these are in demand collectibles. I don't think you can get out of it the same amount of money you would put into improving it. A replacement cylinder might be a drop-in fix, or it might require fitting by a gunsmith. Don't let anyone talk you into a postwar cylinder. You need a cylinder for a K-22 first model, or K-22 Outdoorsman as it said on the box.
This gun should have some patent dates stamped on the top of the barrel. If the barrel has a grooved rib on top and no patent dates, we have not yet correctly identified it. We need more information.
"theres no k 22 model on this gun"
No, it won't be. Only a few S&Ws had the name stamped on them.
If your revolver looks like the one at the top of the page, DC has IDed it.
The cylinder modification sounds like it was done by an outdoorsman (possibly a coon hunter?) who wanted the option of extra range, while preserving the accuracy and lower cost of the .22 LR.
Can you post pictures?
No, it won't be. Only a few S&Ws had the name stamped on them.
If your revolver looks like the one at the top of the page, DC has IDed it.
The cylinder modification sounds like it was done by an outdoorsman (possibly a coon hunter?) who wanted the option of extra range, while preserving the accuracy and lower cost of the .22 LR.
Can you post pictures?
pattened dates
paten dates on pistol are on top of barrel,they are feb 06 of 06 sept 14 09 and dec 29 14.under barrel is 662xxx.open clynder on fram number is 122xxon front of cylnder where bullets goes is number is 662xxx.same number on butt.I must of gave ya wrong numbers in beginning,hard to make out.I noticed one of the mag holes in cylnder wont let the cartridge go all the way in.only half ways,ya think it was drilled half way or what?
Could it be dirty or corroded and not allowing full chambering of the mag round?
dont know,i pushed hard the bullet was getting marked up where it goes into the case.i can see the lines from the drill bit where it stoped and it looked like smith and wesson yelled lunch and they never gotten back to drilling it out lol.how it got passed quality control beats the hell out of me.any ways what year did they start drilling 3 holes for mag 22s and three holes for long rifles in these k-22 guns.my serial number is on this form.
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The factory would not have done this, especially as this gun was produced before 1940 and the .22 Magnum (RF) was not made until 1959. They would not have agreed to modify such a gun either, as the case and bullet diameter of the .22 LR and Magnum are different; the latter has a larger bore diameter.
Agree the best option would be to find a K-22 Outdoorsman replacement cylinder.
Agree the best option would be to find a K-22 Outdoorsman replacement cylinder.
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