Searched but couldn't find the answer to my question. Would you all tell me what is a good group from 25 yards with K22? Preferably from off-hand. This would give me a better feel for where I am. Additionally, I would like to know what is good from at rest. I don't have a ransom, but I sometimes shoot from a rest with some pillows under the elbows. Don't know if I am lousy or really lousy. Thanks.
What group to expect from K22?
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29aholic
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Well off hand you might want to strive to keep them all in the x-ring of a standard Bullseye target. I don't remember I think the x-ring is about the size of a quarter.
My last K-22 was a four screw pre model. Off a rest with good ammo it would shoot a pretty small cluster ~1/2 or under at 25.
My last K-22 was a four screw pre model. Off a rest with good ammo it would shoot a pretty small cluster ~1/2 or under at 25.
Use decent quality ammo to test it,not bulk.Say CCI SV or better.
loeman
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Not to worry Dewey, I often feel the same way when I read about the accuracy of the guns and people here on the forum. Heck, I'd be delighted with a grapefruit sized grouping at 25 yards.
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Really need 5-6 types of quality SV ammo and a ransom rest to determine how well "the gun" can shoot......without human intervention.
In all likelihood 90some % of us can't shoot as well as the gun is capable of,
Correct me if I'm wrong (I know you will) isn't most smallbore bulleye shot at 50ft not 25yds (75ft) ..... so make sure you're talking apples to apples....
In all likelihood 90some % of us can't shoot as well as the gun is capable of,
Correct me if I'm wrong (I know you will) isn't most smallbore bulleye shot at 50ft not 25yds (75ft) ..... so make sure you're talking apples to apples....
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elpac3
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Your K22 will easily hold an x-ring at 50 yards. Never had a Smith that couldn't shoot better than me 
I have had my K22 since the late '70s. For the 40+ years that I have owned it, I have never shot it off a rest, and 99.9% of the time I shoot it one handed. I would shoot it regularly at 50ft, at 25 yards, and at 50 yards.
I would shoot only 22 lead round nose standard velocity, the old style that moved at about 1040 fps. In both the rapid fire and timed fire stages at 50 ft and 25 yards, I could usually hold the aiming black. In slow fire at 50 ft, 25 yards, and 50 yards, I generally held the 10 ring. I don't put jacketed bullets through my K22.
I would shoot only 22 lead round nose standard velocity, the old style that moved at about 1040 fps. In both the rapid fire and timed fire stages at 50 ft and 25 yards, I could usually hold the aiming black. In slow fire at 50 ft, 25 yards, and 50 yards, I generally held the 10 ring. I don't put jacketed bullets through my K22.
stykshooter
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I have three model 17's and each of them will shoot 1" groups off a rest at 25 yards, with ammo that they like. That is kind of the fun part. I will take 15-20 different varieties of .22's to the range as each of them are finicky and none like the same ammo. C.C.I. SV is a good starting point but a couple of mine actually shoot their best with different varieties of subsonic HP. I also have a model 18 that seems to C.C.I. short HP as good as anything else I have run through it.
.22 pistols can be cantankerous and aggravating until you find an ammo that they really like.
I don't guess I have ever really shot for groups off hand at 25 yards but have killed a truck load of squirrels with my K-22's over the last 40 years, so I would say I can hold minute of squirrel at that distance.
.22 pistols can be cantankerous and aggravating until you find an ammo that they really like.
I don't guess I have ever really shot for groups off hand at 25 yards but have killed a truck load of squirrels with my K-22's over the last 40 years, so I would say I can hold minute of squirrel at that distance.
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Without a machine rest, variability in accuracy will be mostly due to the shooter, offhand more so than off a padded bench. Some shooters have nerves of steel but you may not be one of them 
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As noted above, find ammo your K-22 likes from a rest, then move to offhand and practice, practice, practice...
.As noted above, find ammo your K-22 likes from a rest, then move to offhand and practice, practice, practice...
K22's like most any brand of 22 is very ammo picky. Two identical guns may not like the exact brand and lot of ammo. Serious shooters will test various brands and "lots" of match grade ammo, and when they find one that groups the best will buy several cases of it. Using most "standard" velocity ammo any K22 should shoot within the X ring of the NRA bullseye target for that particular distance. 50 ft = (B3 T&R) .90"; 25 yard (B8 T&R) 1.695". The 50 yard Slow Fire is the same size as the 25 yard T&R, 1.695".
deadin
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To summerize, you have to know what the gun/ammo combination is capable of. The rest is up to the shooter.........
(Of course, if you don't know the first part, it's nice to be able to blame the gun for those flyers...
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(Of course, if you don't know the first part, it's nice to be able to blame the gun for those flyers...
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The 10 Ring of the B-8 target (25 yd target) is 3-3/8 inch dia. Remember, the bullet hole only has to touch the next higher scoring ring to receive that score. So, if you can shoot 4 inches at 25 yds, you will get a 100 on that target.
To answer your question, try to shoot no larger than a 4 inch group at 25 yards and you will always score 100 at 25 yds.
To answer your question, try to shoot no larger than a 4 inch group at 25 yards and you will always score 100 at 25 yds.
99% of us will never come close to shooting with the precision that a K22 is capable of.
Assuming that your group is centered on the bull! My favorite all around use 617s are supposed to be zeroed so the group should be split by the front sight blade top, which doesn't make for the best bullseye work.
Standing 25yd targets, probably Federal Value Pack, as it was Sept. and squirrel season. (2012, though, so memory is spotty!) Could have been Rem. Golden Bullet rounds, as the vertical dispersion looks pretty bad. (If P'bucket wasn't trying to crash the computer with ads, I'd look about more but it's about unusable right now....)
Have had better days and worse.
The Model 17s seem to do about the same, but I've gotten used to the extra mass up front so the "lightweight" blued steel revolvers require more work to hold still!
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Those who are telling you to find the ammo your K-22 likes best speak truth. It will take some time--and great care (without a Ransom)-----less time and less care with one. Cost saving tip: Find a friend (or an enemy), or two or three to share the cost. They don't cost all that much to begin with, and they're dirt cheap divided up.
I have four of these revolvers (2 from the 40's, 1 from the 50's, 1 from the 60's). They all shoot embarrassingly small groups (which is to say they shoot better than I do---now or ever). AND none of them does their best work with the same ammo---so test, test, test!!
Ralph Tremaine
I have four of these revolvers (2 from the 40's, 1 from the 50's, 1 from the 60's). They all shoot embarrassingly small groups (which is to say they shoot better than I do---now or ever). AND none of them does their best work with the same ammo---so test, test, test!!
Ralph Tremaine
If I recall correctly in the 50's&60's the accuracy requirement for a k22 was 1.5 inch fifty yard groups of it did not ship. I shoot bullseye with my k22 and find benched it will certainly hold x ring at 25&50 yards. With me shooting one hand bullseye matches, my goal it to hold the black (9 ring) timed and rapid and 8 ring ( the slow Fire black being 7/8/9/10/x ) slow fire
I bought a B-Square scope mount that replaces the rear sight when removed. It also clamps to the barrel, I TAPE the barrel so I don't scratch the finish. Don't over tighten the rear screw where the sight mounts, just snug so it doesn't strip. Mount a scope or red dot and shoot off a rest. I usually try cheap ammo, supprisingly some of them work great before going to more expensive ones.
The mount can be used on K,L and N frames. You can see what centerfire ammo shoots through your guns or the best reload combo. I shoot indoors at 50ft, the club bought a Ransom rest also. Just a more precise idea then open sights which are hard for me to see. Good luck, Larry
The mount can be used on K,L and N frames. You can see what centerfire ammo shoots through your guns or the best reload combo. I shoot indoors at 50ft, the club bought a Ransom rest also. Just a more precise idea then open sights which are hard for me to see. Good luck, Larry
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In my prime I could get a 2" group at 25 yards, offhand, with a K22. I suspect a Ransom rest would yield something like 1/2" or better.
You get the best consistency if the revolver is sighted for a 6:00 hold on the bullseye at a particular range, adjusting the sights until the group is centered. Ideally, the round bullseye just "touches" the center of the top of the front blade. That's essentially a single point, while the front blade is nearly half the apparent width of the bullseye.
You get the best consistency if the revolver is sighted for a 6:00 hold on the bullseye at a particular range, adjusting the sights until the group is centered. Ideally, the round bullseye just "touches" the center of the top of the front blade. That's essentially a single point, while the front blade is nearly half the apparent width of the bullseye.
