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It's a ball buster, when the wife finds out how many guns you really have in the safe. Watch out!
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H. M. Pope
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The hole is about 1 1/8 inch. As you can see it's marked S&W. If it's not for a gun could it be something like the blade savers S&W made in the 1930's ?. Thought someone here may have seen one before and knew what it was for.
H. M. Pope
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Harry
Looks almost like a fuse puller.
I don't think it is Smith & Wesson.
Don Mundell SWCA LM614
Looks almost like a fuse puller.
I don't think it is Smith & Wesson.
Don Mundell SWCA LM614
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H. M. Pope
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What makes you think that it's not made by Smith & Wesson, I've seen other things that guys said were made by Smith & Wesson that had nothing to do with guns, it's nicely marked S & W and made of Blued Steel, you say it may be a fuse puller ?, I'll show it to an electrician friend of mine and see what he says. Thanks for your input.
H. M. Pope
H. M. Pope
I don't think you could get it around a fuse. It appears as though it slides overtop of whatever it goes to and then only tightens a little around it.
The blueing does make it look like it was made by the S&W but I don't have any knowledge about who they made stuff for, how it was marked or when they started.
I'm trying to think what would be about 1 1/8" on a S&W, it's not the extractor star on my 65, and I'm not able to get to my safe to check any N frames.
The blueing does make it look like it was made by the S&W but I don't have any knowledge about who they made stuff for, how it was marked or when they started.
I'm trying to think what would be about 1 1/8" on a S&W, it's not the extractor star on my 65, and I'm not able to get to my safe to check any N frames.
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H. M. Pope
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Jellybean,
Your correct, the handles open up to about 1 1/4 inches and I assume that it slides down over something and when the handles are closed it's about 1 1/8 inches. I don't think it would be a fuse puller either, being the hole is 1 1/8 it would have to be a very large fuse, plus it's made of steel, don't know if I would want to fool around electric with a steel pliers type thing. The only thing I can think of that would fit in that large a hole ( if it's for a gun ) would be a cylinder for one of the older tip up 22's, but I don't have one handy to check.
H. M. Pope
Your correct, the handles open up to about 1 1/4 inches and I assume that it slides down over something and when the handles are closed it's about 1 1/8 inches. I don't think it would be a fuse puller either, being the hole is 1 1/8 it would have to be a very large fuse, plus it's made of steel, don't know if I would want to fool around electric with a steel pliers type thing. The only thing I can think of that would fit in that large a hole ( if it's for a gun ) would be a cylinder for one of the older tip up 22's, but I don't have one handy to check.
H. M. Pope
bk43
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Very close! The cylinder for the tips-ups is 1 1/16". That is using a ruler as I don't have any of those fancy measuring devices.
Bob
Bob
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H. M. Pope
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Bob,
That is very close, I wonder how large a 32 tip up cylinder is. Maybe it was used to hold a cylinder by hand so that some type of work could be done on it. But it does not look like it's from the 1800's, more like from the teens, 20's or 30's, now that I'm thinking about it a 22/32 cylinder may fit, I have one of them, I'll check it soon as I can.
H. M. Pope
That is very close, I wonder how large a 32 tip up cylinder is. Maybe it was used to hold a cylinder by hand so that some type of work could be done on it. But it does not look like it's from the 1800's, more like from the teens, 20's or 30's, now that I'm thinking about it a 22/32 cylinder may fit, I have one of them, I'll check it soon as I can.
H. M. Pope
The S&W letters are to square, Smith & Wesson had a large loop in the ampersand.
J. Galt
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I agree, I don't think it was made by Smith & Wesson. Could it be a cable stripper?
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H. M. Pope
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Sorry,
I didn't realize that S&W always used the same lettering and type of ampersand on all there stuff. I just thought that over the years they may have used different types of lettering on different things. I never paid much attention to things like this as I never bought anything marked S&W that wasn't a handgun.
I see where the S&W letters are square and it's also marked "Pat.Pend'g". I don't remember seeing this type letting on any S&W handgun.
Then again it may not be for a gun, don't forget, the Blade Savers were not for guns either. Do the S&W Blade Savers have the same type lettering as the guns ?.
As to it being a cable stripper ?, I'm not sure just how a cable stripper works, it does not have any cutting edges on it.
I did check a 22/32 cylinder last night, it's 1 1/4 inch, to big to be useful as a cylinder tool of any kind, also checked a S&W Ladysmith cylinder, it was 1 inch, and that's to small unless some type of spacer is used.
The reason I thought it was something for a S&W handgun or was made by "our" S&W Co. is that I was told that it came out of an advanced S&W collection, but no one seemed to know what it was used for.
Unfortunately the persons collection that it came out of is no longer with us.
H. M. Pope
I didn't realize that S&W always used the same lettering and type of ampersand on all there stuff. I just thought that over the years they may have used different types of lettering on different things. I never paid much attention to things like this as I never bought anything marked S&W that wasn't a handgun.
I see where the S&W letters are square and it's also marked "Pat.Pend'g". I don't remember seeing this type letting on any S&W handgun.
Then again it may not be for a gun, don't forget, the Blade Savers were not for guns either. Do the S&W Blade Savers have the same type lettering as the guns ?.
As to it being a cable stripper ?, I'm not sure just how a cable stripper works, it does not have any cutting edges on it.
I did check a 22/32 cylinder last night, it's 1 1/4 inch, to big to be useful as a cylinder tool of any kind, also checked a S&W Ladysmith cylinder, it was 1 inch, and that's to small unless some type of spacer is used.
The reason I thought it was something for a S&W handgun or was made by "our" S&W Co. is that I was told that it came out of an advanced S&W collection, but no one seemed to know what it was used for.
Unfortunately the persons collection that it came out of is no longer with us.
H. M. Pope
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I was thinking of an extractor star, which an N frame .45 cal. comes close to 1 1/8", if measured with a steel tape ruler. The principle is also the same as for current tools made to remove the extractor rod from the front. I didn't check any other N frames either by the way.
I never even thought of a cylinder itself, I'm sure mine are all bigger than the tip-ups mentioned.
I never even thought of a cylinder itself, I'm sure mine are all bigger than the tip-ups mentioned.
I have a bladesaver and it say
--- MANUFACTURED BY ---
SMITH & WESSON
with a "lazy &" as on the revolvers
WESSON PRODUCTS
--- SPRINGFIELD. MASS.---
and on the other side it say
BLADE SAVER PAT. PEND.
and a triangle with the letters W P betwen "pat" and "pend"
unfortunatly i have not figgured out how to take macro shots with my camera.
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SMMAssociates
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I can't go look now, but I think my new M&P does NOT have the lacy (or lazy) ampersand....
However, I'm also fairly certain that S&W has used that for a very long time, more or less exclusively.
Reminds me of a "spanner" for removing stuck photographic filters. The little holes might just be a material-savings thing, or a place to hang it on a nail....
Guess it could be a barrel wrench if padded?
Regards,
However, I'm also fairly certain that S&W has used that for a very long time, more or less exclusively.
Reminds me of a "spanner" for removing stuck photographic filters. The little holes might just be a material-savings thing, or a place to hang it on a nail....
Guess it could be a barrel wrench if padded?
Regards,
bk43
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500 views and no answer I would say take a shot at finding a tool and die maker, or something like that, named S&W and see where that gets you. Never know.
Bob
Bob
Not sure that's a tool; it may be a part. A drive chain tensioner or shifter? It's too sturdy to be a cable ripper or fuse puller. It would have some kind of physical application that requires it to withstand or transfer force. Looks If you put something solid between the fixed arm and the swing arm, then pushed down on a round bar through the big hole, that would create a levered downward gripping force with the swing arm. Think of an action kind of like a peavey.
Note in the closeup that there is a washer mark around the hole at the right end of the fixed arm. This may be a part that was bolted to something else.
Basically mystified, though. I'd also like to know what it is.
Note in the closeup that there is a washer mark around the hole at the right end of the fixed arm. This may be a part that was bolted to something else.
Basically mystified, though. I'd also like to know what it is.
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H. M. Pope
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Bob,
I'm not that interested in it to take it any further. I just thought it was an interesting tool ( if it is a tool ) and that maybe someone in this forum of S&W guys may have seen something like it before and could tell us what it was used for.
I'll stick with my Pre-War Guns, there much easer to ID and I'm sure a lot more fun to play with
H. M. Pope
I'm not that interested in it to take it any further. I just thought it was an interesting tool ( if it is a tool ) and that maybe someone in this forum of S&W guys may have seen something like it before and could tell us what it was used for.
I'll stick with my Pre-War Guns, there much easer to ID and I'm sure a lot more fun to play with
H. M. Pope
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