What about all of the documented failures caused by the flimsy locking system.
It takes a responsible person to keep a firearm safe when its accessible to a child I am not sure a key lock or a padlock will help if that concern is absent.
The lock is of no issue to me as I prefer and buy older Smiths. If this were not the case the lock in of its self would be enough to keep me from buying the gun
What documented cases are you referring to? Other than a few early cases in ultralight guns using heavy ammo loads, I haven't been able to find any cases of guns locking up.
I understand your question and I am as pro 2nd as they come but what is the problem with the internal lock?
If a person does not like it, unlock it and toss the key in the trash. The gun will work fine. I do not know where I put the keys for the guns with IL that I own. All the guns work fine.
In the real world and not in the world of us "gunist" the locks are beneficial in preventing death and injury. It may be difficult to believe but there are people in non-gun friendly areas that have children and they want that gun lock.
Would you want that internal lock where you can toss the key or have to deal with an external lock that had to be on the gun by law? Some areas require a lock be on a gun when stored. In this pro gun area, where virtually everyone owns guns, we cannot walk out of a store without a lock on the new gun we purchased.
The IL does not hurt anything. My car has a lot of factory added items that I do not want but it does not mean I have to use them.
Including ironically a key which is need to be put in and turned for it to work.My car has a lot of factory added items ...
Heavy loads or light loads a safety should NOT lock up a gun.
Including ironically a key which is need to be put in and turned for it to work.
I don't own one of the lock guns and would rather not have one. Also I prefer the look of the older revolvers better, I don't like the little "triangle" looking cylinder release, I prefer the older style. That said the lock is probably a must have for many and it is a heck of a lot better than those trigger locks.
For what it is worth I have kids and keep only 1 loaded gun in the house - it is a 686 and it is in one of those small pistol safes under my bed. So the gun is not locked itself but the whole thing is locked up in a safe for safety reasons. If I had one of the newer guns I would probably have the pistol in am unlocked drawer but with the gun lock engaged. The latter would probably be quicker to ready in an emergency, all else considered.
Same reason that I won't buy a Ruger or any other firearm that has warning labels and such inscribed on it.
What documented cases are you referring to? Other than a few early cases in ultralight guns using heavy ammo loads, I haven't been able to find any cases of guns locking up.
I experienced IL induced lock-up while shooting double taps with my 60-14, as a result I shall never buy another IL equipped S&W. Anyone that has an IL equipped S&W should refrain from tossing the keys, just in case the "impossible" happens.
Just sayin'...