What is this bayonet for

[pharmer]

My garage sale guy dropped 550 rds of ammo on me for a good price this weekend. He also gave me this as a bonus as he paid all of 50 cents for it. The blade is marked "C Chaenel, Suhl" (I think) and is 20" long. It is in pretty rough shape, the metal scabbard has dents that make the blade hard to insert and draw. Anybody recognize it. Joe

 

[mc5aw]

Joe ... I'm not an expert by a long shot, but I think it's pre-WWI vintage based on the business end (more spike than blade) and looks Austrian. I had one with a similar grip years back.

 

[deadin]

German bayonet for the Gewer 98 (Grandad of the K98). First bayonet for the Mauser 98 series. It was found that they bent too easily, so they were replaced by the more substantial bladed ones.....

 

[OFT II]

German bayonet for the Gewer 98 (Grandad of the K98). First bayonet for the Mauser 98 series. It was found that they bent too easily, so they were replaced by the more substantial bladed ones.....

We have a winner here. The Germans wanted to have a bayonet as long as the ones the French used. When they were deemed too fragile for combat that bayonet was replaced by the 98/05 model aka the butcher blade.

 

[pharmer]

Thanks guys. I had no idea. The button to release it is rusted in place, so no collector value. Worth what I paid for it. Joe

 

[Texas Star]

Suhl is a gunmaking city in Germany, BTW. That should have been a clue.

 

[Chipmunk6]

Soak the button part in Kroil,
it freed up the button on my butcher blade bayo.
Chipmunk6

 

[shouldazagged]

Suhl is a gunmaking city in Germany, BTW. That should have been a clue.

Interesting. I wouldn't have known that.

 

[carpriver]

A bayonet is for sticking the enemy. At least that what we were told. But it can be used to remove mud from your boots. break band on c rats or open a c rat can. I have seen it used as a tent peg. Use it to dig a hole. I have even used a bayonet to poke at things that I didn't what it was. Sorr I could resist

 

[venomballistics]

A bayonet is for sticking the enemy. At least that what we were told. But it can be used to remove mud from your boots. break band on c rats or open a c rat can. I have seen it used as a tent peg. Use it to dig a hole. I have even used a bayonet to poke at things that I didn't what it was. Sorr I could resist

don't forget stabbing rats while holed up in a trench for months on end

 

[gregintenn]

A bayonet is for sticking the enemy. At least that what we were told. But it can be used to remove mud from your boots. break band on c rats or open a c rat can. I have seen it used as a tent peg. Use it to dig a hole. I have even used a bayonet to poke at things that I didn't what it was. Sorr I could resist

This one looks like it would work well for roasting weenies over an open fire.

 

[rwsmith]

My.....

My, but that is a LONG one, isn't it?

 

[LoboGunLeather]

I'll never forget bayonet training in the Army. The instructor went to great lengths to emphasize the importance of attacking the soft fleshy parts of the body (abdomen, throat) and avoiding bones (ribcage) to keep from having the blade of the bayonet lodging in bone. If, however, the blade of your bayonet became stuck you should not play John Wayne and put your foot on the man's chest to pull it out, you just fire one round and the recoil would free the bayonet.

I had to ask: If there is one round left in my rifle what the heck am I doing in a bayonet fight?

Never did get an answer to that question. Had to do a couple hundred push-ups for that.

 

[Dennis The B]

Went to Camp Lejeune for small arms training in 1969 (I was USN). The instructor went through the necessary lesson for using the bayonet; up close, avoid shooting friendly, etc. Advised us that regardless what the conditions were, if you had ammo left, shoot. Let your buddies figure out how to stay out of the line of fire. Your first job is to stay alive. I always thought that good advice.

 

[venomballistics]

My, but that is a LONG one, isn't it?

designed by a true visionary who foresaw a future of obesity

 

[pharmer]

designed by a true visionary who foresaw a future of obesity

Heh-heh, there are some enormoids around that if you stuck it in to the hilt, wouldn't reach any vitals. You wouldn't encounter them on a battlefield though, unless the war was on the pastry aisle of the Costco. Joe

 

[pharmer]

Thanks to the brain trust here, I think I have an ID. Too bad the condition would not bring this price. Joe
http://www.collectorfirearms.org/website Images/Edged Weapons/ew-1020 (1).JPG

 

[jtcarm]

We have a winner here. The Germans wanted to have a bayonet as long as the ones the French used. When they were deemed too fragile for combat that bayonet was replaced by the 98/05 model aka the butcher blade.

Doubtless because the French showed such brilliance in small arms design. The Chaut-Chaut alone saved countless German lives!


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[Cyrano]

I think the maker's name is C. G. HAENEL.

 

[BigBill]

This one looks like it would work well for roasting weenies over an open fire.

And chicken, toasting marshmallows.