What is wrong with people today?

[bk42261]

We were at the Credit Union the other day and an elderly man with a walker fell as he was trying to come in. The doors open out, and he fell right across the doors, blocking both of them.
A "lady" was right behind him, looked at him like he was in her way, and left. Then, two different "men" were trying to get in and also looked at him as if he were a giant inconvenience, turned around and left. Several others did the same thing.
Since he was blocking the doors, I couldn't get out to help him.
He finally moved enough for me to get out and help him up, but he had to just lay there for probably 5 minutes as people just left instead of trying to help this poor old guy.
Where did common decency and respect for the elderly go?

 

[Classic29]

It’s gone man. People would rather ‘film’ a tragedy than help. If someone does help, 9 times out of 10 it’ll be a Gen X’er or early Millennial. My observation so YMMV.

 

[Model29-26.5]

It’s over

 

[SWOH]

We were at the Credit Union the other day and an elderly man with a walker fell as he was trying to come in. The doors open out, and he fell right across the doors, blocking both of them.
A "lady" was right behind him, looked at him like he was in her way, and left. Then, two different "men" were trying to get in and also looked at him as if he were a giant inconvenience, turned around and left. Several others did the same thing.
Since he was blocking the doors, I couldn't get out to help him.
He finally moved enough for me to get out and help him up, but he had to just lay there for probably 5 minutes as people just left instead of trying to help this poor old guy.
Where did common decency and respect for the elderly go?

Kitty Genovese ring a bell? - this has been going on for a while, in different forms. We're all pretty much on our own and even some first responder types will blow you off.

 

[Baltimoreed11754]

Ignorant people. Help or at least try. At the very least call the rescue squad if he’s too big for you to help and hang around until they show. Similarly over the last couple yrs Ive had guys help me change flat tires, I’m 74. I’ve stopped to change tires for folks when I was younger.

 

[blackdeuce]

I don't know when people lost morals, integrity, and work ethic. Not everyone, but I think today it's the exception instead of the rule. I'm friggin amazed when someone simply does what they said they would do.

I'm happy to say that I'm certain that all three of my boys would have helped that man.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Common courtesy and concern for others, like common sense, was never that common, and it's not a question of generation, age cohort-or country . France had a bad heatwave a few years ago-in August, when France sort of shuts down. Many elderly people were left to cope by themselves-with no air conditioning and no help from families. In Sweden a few years ago people were used to seeing an elderly woman sitting on her balcony. It was only when people saw her with a foot of snow on her that someone thought to check up on her.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Another dog whistle thread calling in the broad brushers.

 

[raisedin99]

Just this past Thursday, I was in a pain management doctors office and a gentleman sitting there was called by the nurse to come back and see the doctor and he could barely move, so I offered him my walker thinking that it would aid him in getting up. He and his wife both thanked me over and over as well as several other people sitting there thanked me as well so much that it was nearly embarrassing. I just thought it was the thing to do.

terry

 

[rockquarry]

Kitty Genovese ring a bell? - this has been going on for a while, in different forms. We're all pretty much on our own and even some first responder types will blow you off.

The Kitty Genovese story is an interesting one but sad. Maybe prophetic as well. Worth reading the book (or books). There has been a lot written about the incident and aftermath.

 

[TX-Dennis]

Working with the "public," I have seen people help fallen elderly many times. It is quite common here in Texas.

 

[SWOH]

Common courtesy and concern for others, like common sense, was never that common, and it's not a question of generation, age cohort-or country . France had a bad heatwave a few years ago-in August, when France sort of shuts down. Many elderly people were left to cope by themselves-with no air conditioning and no help from families. In Sweden a few years ago people were used to seeing an elderly woman sitting on her balcony. It was only when people saw her with a foot of snow on her that someone thought to check up on her.

Other countries do have a different sense of privacy than some places, with the Nordic countries not wanting to be involved in other's business being a common approach.

 

[LVSteve]

In our litigation crazy society, nobody wants to touch a person who may be hurt lest they be accused of their help making any injury worse, resulting in being sued into bankruptcy.

Sometimes these crazy situations are officially sanctioned. In the UK the police are banned from going into water to try and save somebody on "health and safety at work" grounds. This was questioned not long ago by a coroner overseeing an inquest, and the police force in question stood firm on the policy with complete backing from the Home Office.

I'm sure there are many other similarly insane examples in other developed societies. These are the results of the "development" of our societies post-WWII.

 

[Major 2]

We live in times where there actually is a need for Good Samaritan Act;
A law that offers immunity from civil liability to individuals who provide emergency care in good faith. This legal shield protects those acting as Good.

 

[schutz5]

Other countries do have a different sense of privacy than some places, with the Nordic countries not wanting to be involved in other's business being a common approach.

I would venture to say that the lawyer shark gentry have created this type of avoidance to help. You can surly research up cases of good Samaritans getting sued. Personally, I will not let that fear erode my humanity.

The kommie state I live in already rewards criminals and casts down the ' good guys'.

 

[LVSteve]

We live in times where there actually is a need for Good Samaritan Act;
A law that offers immunity from civil liability to individuals who provide emergency care in good faith. This legal shield protects those acting as Good.

Given that Congress is staffed largely by former lawyers, such a law has no chance. You can't have Congress passing acts that will affect the rest of the cabal.

 

[cowboy94916]

It's the way of the owrld right now, no one wants to be inconvenienced, just served. Employer loyalty disappeared in the 70's and 80's in turn employee loyalty went right with it. I belong to 5 gun clubs in my area. The one thing they all have in common is who does the work.In every one the working members are between 65 and 85 years old. Two of the clubs are in the range of 1000 members, working crew 15 to 25, one day a week.. Small clubs under 200, working members 7-10 usually the officers and board members, of which I am both.
I am the director of a pistol league, (one of three positions allocated I am the only one left the other two died in last 5 years.)
We cannot get anyone in the eague to run for the open positions. We run matches every week. In last 5 years 6 of us end up setting the matches and running them. Now 4 of us are doing it, so we can shoot, our age range 70-76. We hve put up sign-,up sheets requesting other shooters to setup matches. We have offered to guide them. In the 21 to 55 grouip, 2 will setup and run a match. Guess who they are related to. The rest show up and shoot and leave. If we suggest work attendance drops in half.
I miss the days in the first 20 years, late 70's to mid 90"s when the sign-up board to run the 24 matches were filled and doube teamed and the matches were eleborate. Hell Monday night practice drew 20 or so shooters for drills and we all worked together. Now all it is is kids who want to be entertained and look at you as if you owe them something for asking them to help.
Sorry for the rant I am just so tired of the lack of consideration shown by the post baby boomers. I am old and tired but don't want to stop enjoying th game till they dig the hole. A little help would be nice. Sorry its been a long day, we had the annual club picnic and raffle, to support one of the smaller clubs today and saw same old thing. Old timers trying to keep a club alive and the young gunning and running. Sure hope it changes before we all croak.

 

[Tom Beavert]

Cootem, now, no worries.
TB

 

[Phenix]

We were at the Credit Union the other day and an elderly man with a walker fell as he was trying to come in. The doors open out, and he fell right across the doors, blocking both of them.
A "lady" was right behind him, looked at him like he was in her way, and left. Then, two different "men" were trying to get in and also looked at him as if he were a giant inconvenience, turned around and left. Several others did the same thing.
Since he was blocking the doors, I couldn't get out to help him.
He finally moved enough for me to get out and help him up, but he had to just lay there for probably 5 minutes as people just left instead of trying to help this poor old guy.
Where did common decency and respect for the elderly go?

I would have helped him, but people’s fear of lawsuits is a real thing.

 

[44MOshooter]

There's still a lot of good people in our community.
I live near a larger city, way too busy there to stop and help a person in distress. I believe it has a lot to do with the loss of morals and empathy towards others?