one eye joe
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I HEAR YA, VINNIE. IMHO, THEY ARE JUST JUNK ! ! !
What Was The Worst New Firearm You've Ever Bought?
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I HEAR YA, VINNIE. IMHO, THEY ARE JUST JUNK ! ! !
JGR_LV
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Like Mr. Tompkins, I tend to buy things of my own vintage, so definitely far from new. Of the new items I've bought, I can't recall any real lemons. That would include a Walther p.1, a post-64 Winchester Model 70 in .300 Win Mag that is probably the most accurate centerfire rifle I'll ever own, and a Ruger Convertible Single Six. About the only other new-new items were a S&W 28 and a S&W Model 19 Deuce & a Half. Both of those are still my favorite wheelguns. The worst new-to-me critter has to be one of those Romanian bolt action .22 trainers. Among other things, the spring for the bolt catch is too weak, so if you get enthusiastic about working the bolt, it comes clear out. I keep promising myself to fix that and then see just how bad the rest of it is, but it keeps getting shoved to the back of the list, something to do with how much work I'm willing to spend on a $50 rifle. Someday, when everything else is caught up, I'm really bored and the weather is too nasty to shoot...
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JGR_LV
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...as opposed to a fairy tale...
...which starts with "Once upon a time..."
You know any good sea story such as this starts off "This is a No Sh---er"
...which starts with "Once upon a time..."
Ruger P97; from day one it was cursed. Somehow or other, in the feeding cycle it would just flip a loaded round from the mag out the top of the gun. Never could get through a full mag no matter what--any mag, any ammo. I was determined to figure it out. Even graphed the type and frequency of malfunctions. Pestered Ruger about it, sent it back twice, no improvement. Fought that thing for a year .Ruger finally said they would give me another NIB if I sent the accursed thing in to them for destruction. I took them up on it, then immediately put the new one on consignment without ever shooting it. Needless to say I don't buy P-anythings from Ruger.
Had a retro remake of the old Whitney Wolverine .22 pistol from Olympic Arms. Great looking gun, also couldn't get through a full mag with ANY ammo. Lousy customer service, as Olympic couldn't care less. The company is now defunct, which makes sense.
Kahr CW45--similar to Post #128 above. Nice shooter, but it rarely could get through a full mag. Every time I thought I had it fixed it would do something else wrong. Put it on consignment. It took a year to sell; apparently the word was getting around about Kahrs.
I will only fool with a lemon so long; last one was a little Beretta 950 in .22LR the wife liked. Went directly to the range where it too would not feed. We turned around and the wife marched back to the salesman, saying that "My husband refuses to work on this gun and I want my money back". I think she owned that gun about three hours. Three hours too long...
Had a retro remake of the old Whitney Wolverine .22 pistol from Olympic Arms. Great looking gun, also couldn't get through a full mag with ANY ammo. Lousy customer service, as Olympic couldn't care less. The company is now defunct, which makes sense.
Kahr CW45--similar to Post #128 above. Nice shooter, but it rarely could get through a full mag. Every time I thought I had it fixed it would do something else wrong. Put it on consignment. It took a year to sell; apparently the word was getting around about Kahrs.
I will only fool with a lemon so long; last one was a little Beretta 950 in .22LR the wife liked. Went directly to the range where it too would not feed. We turned around and the wife marched back to the salesman, saying that "My husband refuses to work on this gun and I want my money back". I think she owned that gun about three hours. Three hours too long...
Dang! I wish I had read this a few days ago. I just won the bid on an auction for one. Hopefully it is better than yours was!
I have a P94DC that has been fine. Hopefully this P97DC will be too...
BigBill
Absent Comrade
A local sports shop had a 59 anniversary of the Remington 1100 12ga shotgun. For $159. Right out of the box the first one jammed while trying to assemble it. The second one jammed the sameway. The third one jammed on the salesman, the fourth one functioned at the range but do I trust it for hunting bird in Blackbear country. They wouldn't give me my money back. I took the loss and pawned it.
Rpg
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Many years ago I bought a little 4 shot 22 mag North American Arms revolver.
Took it out and shot it. Cylinder pin worked its way out in a shot or two. Only way to make it work for 4 shots was to tape the pin in.
It was also the most miserable thing to shoot I've ever experienced: torn web between thumb and forefinger.
Couldn't hit the side of a barn from inside the barn.
Slow as molasses.
My cousin took a fancy to it and still has it. He's fired 5 or ten rounds through it in the last 30 years. Still carys it.
Took it out and shot it. Cylinder pin worked its way out in a shot or two. Only way to make it work for 4 shots was to tape the pin in.
It was also the most miserable thing to shoot I've ever experienced: torn web between thumb and forefinger.
Couldn't hit the side of a barn from inside the barn.
Slow as molasses.
My cousin took a fancy to it and still has it. He's fired 5 or ten rounds through it in the last 30 years. Still carys it.
model70hunter
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Like Stevens I like buying used guns.
On new guns, right after my divorce I was gun less after selling all for the child custody lawyer money. I bought a new Rem 870 express in 20 NIB at a lgs.
Took it rabbit hunting that weekend with my bro and uncle with their beagles. The dogs ran a rabbit around I. A long multiform rose briar patch. The rabbit finally made a long jump between my bro and i, stopped by a clump of grass 10 yards in front of me. I aimed out past his nose and got a click it did not fire, thinking a dud I chambered anothrr, click chambered the 3rd and got a click. Took rounds out of my pocket and all went CLICK! The rabbit never moved. I picked up o e off the ground and got a boom and a dead rabbit. It fired every time after that, but each time I was expecting a click. Traded it back to the lgs for Win M 12 and was happy.
Right after I got married I had sold my deer rifle to defray honeymoon expenses. Saved up money and bought a Rem 700 BDL in 270 at the above lgs. The extractor broke on 1st shot, sent it back to Rem, they replaced extractor, it broke. Rem said I was at fault, I said you can see the extractor grove is not cleanly machined out. The lgs took it back, I got a Sako 270. The lgs leaned on his supplier who got a new gun from Rem.
I have owned many Rem 700 since but all were used. No problems, same with 870s.
I prefer Win m 70s or FN Mausers.
I currently have 2 700 a 243 and a 22 250 and like them.
I've owned many, many guns. I've bought some that were broken and fixed them. I've bought rifles that would not group and glass bedded and found the right ammo.
I ended up liking flawed guns for the challenge of fixing them . Most often the flaws were from a big hammer shade tree smith. So I've owned many worst guns on purpose. I was snooker ed in a trade 18 months ago, traded nice Moss berg 2p for a clean old Ithaca m37. It was trash, should have known someone had been inside by the booger ed screws. Was able to get parts from the new Ithaca and fixed it. Found a like new full choke bbl on ebay for 50 or so bucks, cut it to 20" and made a riot gun. Still have the original full choke bbl which is good on doves.
My list of worst ones is long but I enjoyed every minute.
On new guns, right after my divorce I was gun less after selling all for the child custody lawyer money. I bought a new Rem 870 express in 20 NIB at a lgs.
Took it rabbit hunting that weekend with my bro and uncle with their beagles. The dogs ran a rabbit around I. A long multiform rose briar patch. The rabbit finally made a long jump between my bro and i, stopped by a clump of grass 10 yards in front of me. I aimed out past his nose and got a click it did not fire, thinking a dud I chambered anothrr, click chambered the 3rd and got a click. Took rounds out of my pocket and all went CLICK! The rabbit never moved. I picked up o e off the ground and got a boom and a dead rabbit. It fired every time after that, but each time I was expecting a click. Traded it back to the lgs for Win M 12 and was happy.
Right after I got married I had sold my deer rifle to defray honeymoon expenses. Saved up money and bought a Rem 700 BDL in 270 at the above lgs. The extractor broke on 1st shot, sent it back to Rem, they replaced extractor, it broke. Rem said I was at fault, I said you can see the extractor grove is not cleanly machined out. The lgs took it back, I got a Sako 270. The lgs leaned on his supplier who got a new gun from Rem.
I have owned many Rem 700 since but all were used. No problems, same with 870s.
I prefer Win m 70s or FN Mausers.
I currently have 2 700 a 243 and a 22 250 and like them.
I've owned many, many guns. I've bought some that were broken and fixed them. I've bought rifles that would not group and glass bedded and found the right ammo.
I ended up liking flawed guns for the challenge of fixing them . Most often the flaws were from a big hammer shade tree smith. So I've owned many worst guns on purpose. I was snooker ed in a trade 18 months ago, traded nice Moss berg 2p for a clean old Ithaca m37. It was trash, should have known someone had been inside by the booger ed screws. Was able to get parts from the new Ithaca and fixed it. Found a like new full choke bbl on ebay for 50 or so bucks, cut it to 20" and made a riot gun. Still have the original full choke bbl which is good on doves.
My list of worst ones is long but I enjoyed every minute.
Way back in the '70s I decided I needed a really nifty back-pocket gun, and being a callow relatively youthful and inexperienced guy at the time, I thought that one of those really compact AMT Backup guns in .380 caliber would be ideal.
I had another think coming. Turned out to be a jam-o-matic with anything I tried to feed it.
I sold it within a month, telling the guy that bought it that it could stand some reliability "tuning" with some ammo. Well, really, not "some," just "all" ammo. Piece of ****.
John
I had another think coming. Turned out to be a jam-o-matic with anything I tried to feed it.
I sold it within a month, telling the guy that bought it that it could stand some reliability "tuning" with some ammo. Well, really, not "some," just "all" ammo. Piece of ****.
John
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