They are expensive little squarish tubes with springs inside.What are magazines?
Got any you want to sell?
What's going on with 3rd Gen magazines?
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Got any you want to sell?
85V65Sabre
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Sounds good to me, your decision leaves more 3rd Gens & mags for me and the other addicts here.[emoji4]
Picked up(locally) yesterday a 4053 with one clip. That brings my 4013 clips to 12. 6 of them I'll leave intact and 6 will be converted to 10mm. A while back I got a 4013 barrel and 10mm reamer. I'll leave the gun's barrel intact and ream the purchased barrel. I'll order springs and buffer for the 10mm conversion and then still be able to convert the pistol back to 40.
JeepinSoldier
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This site is always a blessing and a curse.
I have plenty of curved base plate magazines for the 3913 and 3953 but had wanted to try the flat base plate versions.
Got the 4586 working well and then it started to choke with the yellow follower magazine that it came with, but runs fine with the two new black follower magazines that I purchased while working the bugs out of it. So I wanted at least one more new black follower magazine.
Read through this thread, figured that if Midway was having a sale on the .45 mags now was the time to buy them. Now I'm $125 poorer but there are 2 more .45 mags and 2 flat base plate 3913/3953 mags in the safe. Better to have them then not be able to find them later.
I have plenty of curved base plate magazines for the 3913 and 3953 but had wanted to try the flat base plate versions.
Got the 4586 working well and then it started to choke with the yellow follower magazine that it came with, but runs fine with the two new black follower magazines that I purchased while working the bugs out of it. So I wanted at least one more new black follower magazine.
Read through this thread, figured that if Midway was having a sale on the .45 mags now was the time to buy them. Now I'm $125 poorer but there are 2 more .45 mags and 2 flat base plate 3913/3953 mags in the safe. Better to have them then not be able to find them later.
JeepinSoldier
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This morning, I see on MidwayUSA that Model 3913/3953 curved floorplate magazines are noted as "discontinued." Flat floor plate magazines are still available but apparently going fast. I suspect they'll be "discontinued" by the end of this month.
Member BMCM has posted about the clearance sale going on at MidwayUSA on Model 4506 (et al) magazines... which another member pointed out that this probably means they are being discontinued too.I notice that Model 4516/457 magazines are already noted as "discontinued."
Is it just me? Or is it time to make sure we've got all the 3rd Gen magazines we'll ever need?
Well, was curious after my last post and checked the 4506 mags at Midway. DISCONTINUED:
Smith & Wesson Mag S&W 645 745 4506 4526 4546 4563 4566 4567 4576 4583
Thank you for this thread TTSH! Glad I got em when I did!
Ooops, I did it again. Picked up four of the CS9/no rail 3913TSW magazines NIP from a forum member for $85.00 shipped.
They still have the stickers on them.
Pictures later if anyone is interested.
They still have the stickers on them.
Pictures later if anyone is interested.
Thank God I'm in pretty good shape on them.
After my 3900-series magazine panic is over with, I think the next big panic thing for me is going to be Model 5900-series "pre-ban" magazines.
Being a subject of the People's Republic of Taxachusetts, I can't just run out and buy any 5900-series magazines I find... and certainly not new Mec-Gars. One forum member was recently offering some factory 5900-series magazines for sale. Unfortunately, there was no way we could confirm that they were "pre-ban"... and I don't wish to go to prison for 10 years.
Sometimes, I wonder if S&W kept a whole lot of the "pre-ban" and "post-ban" 3rd Gen magazines exactly the same in order to help us... or to hurt us... here in the anti-2A moonbat-occupied states?
Big Shrek
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Logically, since they quit making them before the ban,
technically, anything other than the new Pro-mag's
should be pre-ban...if in doubt, always say they came with it in 1995
technically, anything other than the new Pro-mag's
should be pre-ban...if in doubt, always say they came with it in 1995
Close but not exactly true.
The ban ran from 1994 to 2004. They stopped making the last 3rd Gens that used 5900-series hi-cap magazines in 2007, more or less (excluding special cop orders and the like).During the ban, all hi-caps were marked for LEO or export only... and other members here have assured me that pre-1994 hi-cap magazines already in stock were allowed to be sold until supplies were exhausted. If true, there would have been few, if any, pre-ban hi-cap magazines leftover and available to be sold brand new after 2004. There had to be new production of magazines for 3rd Gen pistols manufactured between 2004 and 2007 and for sale separately (or with special order guns) long thereafter.
I can't prove it, of course... but it sure seems like a practical and logical conclusion to me. The only important issue to me right now is how to tell "pre-ban" hi-cap magazines from "post-ban" hi-cap magazines, especially when a whole lot of them look identical "pre-ban" vs. "post-ban"!
We tend to rely on little clues... and rumors... and follower colors... and what very few hard facts we actually know. It's an imperfect science for an imperfect law. But it's all we've got without dates on the magazines or definitive manufacturing data from the mothership. 
But when the penalty is up to 10 years in prison, you need to take the crazy law seriously or else.
Elkins45
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Wait.....what? 59 series mags will work in Glocks? Really? I can't believe I have never heard this before.
Honestly, that sounds too good to be true.
'the 1-2-3rd Gen 9mm pistol's ARE Smiths Not Glocks.
Hopefully, member Elkins45 was just goofing a little on member Sevens.
In fact, I'm sure of it.
gunmagwarehouse.com has 3rd Gen magazines, including curved and flat base plate 3913 magazines.
I've never done business with them, so I don't know how they are to deal with and can't endorse them. I just thought I'd mention it.
I've never done business with them, so I don't know how they are to deal with and can't endorse them. I just thought I'd mention it.
If that was for me, I'm in pretty good shape right now as the result of a couple local buys and a nifty trade deal with a forum member.
S&W 5900-series "pre-ban" magazines are my next big focus.
No, not you in particular. I know that there are a few other people looking for magazines as well.
If that was for me, I'm in pretty good shape right now as the result of a couple local buys and a nifty trade deal with a forum member.
S&W 5900-series "pre-ban" magazines are my next big focus.
Yes, Model 3913 curved baseplate magazines mysteriously reappeared the other day...
... and yours truly tried to buy a bunch of them using the latest "free shipping" promotion (just as I had tried to do the last time a similar promotion was on). And once again, it didn't work. 
I finally had a conversion with MidwayUSA yesterday and found out that products for which there is a "Quantity Limit" stated do not qualify for any of their free shipping promotions.
Not now, not ever. That was news to me.
I've done a ton of business with MidwayUSA and never knew that. I think I've paid more money in MidwayUSA shipping changes than I've paid for the actual parts themselves. As much as I rely on MidwayUSA, I've had my troubles with their ordering system and I have a list of complaints about the way they do business (which always seems to maximize those damn shipping charges). But that's another topic for another day.
For now, I'm actually pretty much okay with 3913 magazines, my gripes and problems with MidwayUSA notwithstanding. 
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So today at LGS looking thru misc SW mags and found a flushfit 6rd to fit my 4513tsw. They also had 6rd curved baseplate 45 mags. Didn't pu because I wasnt sure they would seat correctly. Came home and took curved base off 7rd mags,and put it on 6rd and it fit perfect in gun. Looks odd tho. what are the 6 rd curved origiallly for??
Sounds like you have an early "pre-rail" Model 4513TSW that uses the special 6-round recessed fit magazines. The 6-round curved baseplate magazines you found are for the CS45.
Shipping charges and their ending their dealer discounts prompted me to switch more to Brownells. Midway usually has a better selection of 3rd Gen parts, but not by much.
Yes, Model 3913 curved baseplate magazines mysteriously reappeared the other day...
I finally had a conversion with MidwayUSA yesterday and found out that products for which there is a "Quantity Limit" stated do not qualify for any of their free shipping promotions.
That was news to me.
As much as I rely on MidwayUSA, I've had my troubles with their ordering system and I have a list of complaints about the way they do business (which always seems to maximize those damn shipping charges). But that's another topic for another day.
My single biggest gripe relates to how out-of-stock and back-ordered parts are handled... as well as how orders can't be held or combined even if you are willing to pay a little extra for them to do so. Alerts always seem to come in spaced just far enough apart time-wise that they almost always result in separate orders and, therefore, separate shipping fees.
Like I said, I think I've paid more money overall in shipping fees to MidwayUSA than I have for the parts themselves (and I have bought a LOT of parts!).
Not being able to use their "free shipping" promotions for magazines just adds insult to injury. It's a serious love/hate relationship for sure.
Thanks TTSH for the info on the mags. Kenna
Picked up two original mags at the latest local gunshow,.....an 8rd 9mm and a 7rd .45. Some would say that $15 apiece was cheap, but we'll see about that. I have a use for the 9mm mag but don't own a compact .45. What does the 7rder fit? Is this cheap magazine going to cost me $500 in the near future?
Like this one?
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/3...3tsw-4556-4596-45-acp-7-round-stainless-steel
I see a new .45 3rd Gen in the Kaveman's future!
Well, that is cheap for that magazine. As noted at the Midway link, it will fit a bunch of compact 3rd Gen 45s. You probably know this already, but it's cheap insurance to pop in a new magazine spring. If you plan to keep it, let me know because I think I have a spare magazine spring hanging around. If you plan to sell it, also let me know.
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Like this one?
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/3...3tsw-4556-4596-45-acp-7-round-stainless-steel
I see a new .45 3rd Gen in the Kaveman's future!
Thanks TTSH, that's a helpful listing. I'm not really aroused by the idea of a mini .45 but you never know,.....that might change. It'd have to be a DAO of course. I see a 457D on my favorite shopping site and the price ain't bad. No telling what it'll go for but $450 would buy it now. Problem is that the 457 has always seemed a bit doggie to me.
4556 would be a fine option. I think I remember bidding on one several months ago(the only one I've ever seen)and iirc the winning bid was WAY up there,......not something I'd ever spend that kind of money on. I'm not going to spend a thousand dollars I don't have on a pistol I don't want just because I have a fifteen dollar magazine. Well, I'm probably not going to spend a thousand dollars I don't have on a pistol I don't want. Well, I guess I might not spend a thousand dollars I don't have on a pistol I don't want. I do already have a magazine though, so there's that to consider. It'd be a shame to let that go to waste. And now that I think about it, I have a set of Hogue woodies for a 4013 stored away somewhere. I'm assuming that's the same frame size, right? Let me check my CC balance and I'll get back to you,.......
Looking closely at the .45 mag I now notice that the lip of the finger rest is chipped off. Mag looks like new otherwise but with the chipped floorplate I guess I got robbed after all. I'd press charges against the seller, but I suppose if I stood there with it in my hand and bought it I'm the one who gets the blame. It's not often I find single-stack S&W mags just sitting on a table when I'm actually looking for them, so I may have panicked just a little bit.
Simple solution: Smith & Wesson Mag Floorplate S&W 4513TSW 4553TSW CS40C CS40D CS40S
Note that the inclusion of the CS9D in that list is an error.
Note that the inclusion of the CS9D in that list is an error.
Thanks, I suppose I could do that. Unfortunately I don't really have anything else I need from Midway right now and like you I'm not nuts about paying $10 shipping on a $3 piece of plastic(that's actually worth about 14 cents),.......especially for a mag I can't use in a gun I don't have. I've been forced into retirement too so I'm doing all I can to stop the financial bleeding. I thought I had ten more good years of income left but it hasn't worked out that way.
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I saw new 3913TSW mags for $15 each in the clearance bin at a Austin, TX gunshop about a month ago.
I don't have a 3913TSW so I didn't buy them.
I don't have a 3913TSW so I didn't buy them.
