Memory is very foggy at my advanced age and with senility setting in... but didn't someone here once suggest it meant they were supplied to S&W by Metalform?
What's going on with 3rd Gen magazines?
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Midway is having a S&W magazinre sale. That includes some 3rd Gen models.
digiroc
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My magazine stock variances
Since joining this forum I've become a 3rd gen collector. Damn you guys for drawing me in! Little did I know that the mags would be so scarce. I've managed to acquire a sufficient number of 10mm mags for my 1006 & 1076. Since my CS9 also accepts mags from my 3913NL and 3914LS I'm OK there.
My current problem is the 4040PD I just bought. It's coming this week with two mags, and I'm hoping they are the original with the ball bearing in the follower, but I won't know for sure until the gun arrives.
My Shorty Forty (serial # 36!) has a couple but like the CS9, mags from my 411 and 4046 will work and I have quite a few of the 11 rounders. (one marked LE & Govt only).
So oldman10mm would you be willing to part with the 4040PD labeled mag in the above photo? Does it have the bearing equipped follower? A 3rd mag would allow me to carry the 4040PD in my shoulder holster rig and that's what I bought it for.
Any other members who have a 4040PD mag they'd be willing to part with are invited to PM me with pricing. I expect to pay a premium for an original mag with bearing in the follower.
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I did however stumble across this deal a couple of weeks ago.
All mags worked good, even the ProMags.[emoji41]
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All mags worked good, even the ProMags.[emoji41]
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The world of S&W 3rd Gens can be very confusing, especially when it comes to the .40's and their magazines. The photo you posted above has a CS40 magazine incorrectly labeled as 4040PD. Both of those models use their own mags and won't work with the other, since one is based on a 45 frame, and the other a 9mm frame. The only mags that work in a 4040PD are the black 4040 mags with the ball bearing indent (though it has been reported that 3913 mags will also work).
I don't own a CS40 but am fairly sure the 4013/4014 mags won't work with it either, so all of those .40's are proprietary with the mags.
The pictures were for reference only. I had seen comments that the CS40 mags work in the 4040PD. Since I don't have a 4040PD,my marking of that CS40 mag was based ONLY on comments.
I'm curious of the 'ball bearing' and 'ball bearing indent',someone care to explain.
I'm curious of the 'ball bearing' and 'ball bearing indent',someone care to explain.
Here's a picture of a 4040PD magazine, you can see the spring-loaded ball bearing at the top on the follower. It is supposed to ensure that the slide stop engages on an empty mag by pushing the follower to the left (in reality, this doesn't always happen).
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Thank you for the pic of the 4040PD magazine.
I deleted the pic in my post#170 in this thread and replaced it with corrected pic. Also deleted the original incorrect pic from my 'photobucket'.
Quoted pics might or might not contain the original 'erroneous' pic.
I deleted the pic in my post#170 in this thread and replaced it with corrected pic. Also deleted the original incorrect pic from my 'photobucket'.
Quoted pics might or might not contain the original 'erroneous' pic.
What comes around goes around. I was at a militaria shop picking up my 4566 and found a 645 mag in the box of spares. Along side of it was a 20 round extended 1911 mag.
Close examination and some research shows its just a matter of cutting the mag detent in a new place. It's been done.
It also goes to the market right now. 1911's are selling pretty well and mags are too. If they are that similar the mag tubes are simply being diverted to a growing market.
Just divert some back. A quality aftermarket .45 mag is a good mag. It's just where the mag release is located, and in this case, they are separated by a wide margin.
It is, according to many accounts, exactly how prototype mags are fashioned at the factory. How the cartridge stacks in a column doesn't vary too much, add a hole for the mag release and tweak the feed lip angles, done. Working mag.
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The old saying is "Friends don't let friends buy Promags."
I bought 4 for an out of production FEG/Mauser and they worked fine. One stopped locking the slide back fairly quickly but as far as shooting the gun they were OK.
A pair 10 rounders I bought for a Mini-30 had me confounded for a long time until I found that they just needed the plating reamed out of the front locking pin hole.
Why 10 rounders for a Mini-30? would be a valid question. The answer would be that 20 rounders are no-go in Kalifornistan and Ruger doesn't make 'em in 10 rounds.
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The old saying is "Friends don't let friends buy Promags."
I've heard all about the Pro Mags, but at a that price I figured they were essentially free and if they did not work or quit working they will make good range mags to practice clearing malfunctions.[emoji106]
digiroc
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I bit the bullet ...
Well after much searching I finally ponied up $150 for a new 4040PD magazine. Figuring 3 mags was essential if I wanted to carry my 4040PD in my shoulder holster rig with a 2 mag pouch.
I find it rather outrageous to pay that much for a 7 round OEM magazine but that's what's the going price for the scarce mag for a 4040PD. You have to pay if you want to play.
digiroc
Well after much searching I finally ponied up $150 for a new 4040PD magazine. Figuring 3 mags was essential if I wanted to carry my 4040PD in my shoulder holster rig with a 2 mag pouch.
I find it rather outrageous to pay that much for a 7 round OEM magazine but that's what's the going price for the scarce mag for a 4040PD. You have to pay if you want to play.
digiroc
Ouch!!!!!
That beats the most I have paid out for a 3rd Gen magazine by more than double.
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Seeing two 10rd 6906 factory mags for auction right now on BEE Bay.
Good price also i think.
Good price also i think.
WOW..........$50 more than a 17round glock mag in 1995
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Sadly for me magazine price has become a deciding factor when looking at purchasing a firearm.[emoji20]
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HCH
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Try Brownells $36
Edit to say: I ordered two and went back to post a link. It now shows out of stock. Sorry, but They have them every once in a while.
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Fishslayer
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A friend has a couple for his 4506 & he says they work fine. I ordered 4 before I found factory cop turnins. For the $$$ can't go too far wrong for range toys.
The Pro Mags were backordered BTW so maybe we're on to something. The mag bodies my friend has look identical to the factory ones....
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