Where are the Springfield SA-35's?

The SA 35 I own crapped out at 150 rounds. FTF due to FTE. Serial number 68XX

-The gun was accurate. Shot at 8, 10 and 15 yards. The trigger was a little vague vs the Garthwaite that came with me today but was as good or better then the T series in this session. All shooting was done standing unsupported. Once I was used to the sights I was hitting a 3/4 IDPA steel target at 25 yards consistently. So even with the barrel wobble it is certainly more accurate than I am. I used the 15 round Mecgar which came with it along with older 13 and 15 round mags known to work in my other BHPs.

-The backstrap is sharper and I noticed it after about 4 mags. It was not sharp enough to cut my hand or anything like that but if I was going to have any work done on it I would have it smoothed out along with some of the other edges. The reset is similar to other stock BHPs. Not as good as it can be but right out of the box it is fine. SA should have increased the weight on the trigger return spring when they removed the mag disconnect on the stock gun. This minor change would help.

-Mags loaded and dropped free without issue. The bevel in the magwell made mags changes smooth enough. I did not run the gun hard I was really looking to test function and get a feel for the trigger and the sights.

-Thumb safety worked as it should. In real use it had a more positive click then when thumbing it on and off sitting at the bench. I still might up the spring tension on the detent spring but for now this one works for. It certainly is strong enough that there was no movement during firing.

Now for the not so good. At about 100+ rounds the gun failed to feed. Case was left in the chamber so a failure to extract. I shot S&B, Browning, Geco and my reloads. Some were 124gr some were 115Gr. Intermittent failures to extract continued with all mags and all ammo. So at that point I put it away and shot other guns.

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When I go home I swapped the extractor and the extractor spring. The design of both parts in the SA 35 are different than the FN parts. The shape of the hook is a little different. It seems more rounded on the SA-35 part. The FN part is a bit more oval. I did not see any signs of damage or excessive wear. There is some wear which might indicate that the part is dragging in the channel and there is some chatter which might be showing interference with the slide serration cuts. I inspected the channel and it seemed clean. The spring on the SA-35 was different. I did not have a way to test if it was heavier or lighter than the FN part. Coils appeared thicker.

So I took the replaced the SA -35 OEM extractor with a FN extractor from the parts kit. I did not do any extensive testing but did go out back and shot 10 rounds. The brass landed in a nice little pile to my right. All cased extracted as they should. I of course will have to take it to the range and run a few more than 10 rounds before I declare it good. I believe that there is something off about the extractor or the extractor spring that is causing these malfunctions. I talked to SA customer service and of course they claim it is not a know issue and only a few pistols have come back with this problem. I image that it is true vs the total number of guns shipped. They are somewhere over 8500 IIRC at this point.

I could have sent it in but they said it would be 2-4 weeks to get is looked at and repaired. I replaced the extractor in about 20 minutes with a $12 part. Seemed like the easier route. If the FN extractor fails the pistol will go back to SA at that point. I wish I could say that SA knock this one out of the park but I can't. It is a work in progress. I will update when it gets back to the range for more testing.
 
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So to answer the OPs question SA is behind in production because the gun is still a work in progress and they are ironing out the rough edges. It seems like more are flowing out serial numbers are now over 9000 but the demand is still high.

If you track GB prices they are coming down. Lots of auctions end with no bid at the $850 range these days. Just like ammo when the dealers can no longer keep them in the back and sell them at scalper prices on GB suddenly they will be on the shelf.

I think eventually they will be sub $650 guns. When you look at dealer and distribution costs on the gun from SA there is profit for dealers at $650.
 
My first HP was purchased new in late 70's. Bright blue in the Browning red-lined rug. Good shooter but it eventually found a new home as I settled into L.E.
Had an itch for a .40 HP that I never scratched. Then I passed on a .40 HP Practical just after Browning announced HP's being discontinued. :(
Enter the SA-35. Don't NEED it,,,, but I'm on some order lists anyway.
In the interim, I found a LNIB 2010 Browning (Belgium/Portugal) HP with the factory LOW-mount adjustable sights. Bright blue, Ambi safety, three factory mags,,, and less that the SA-35 suggested retail.:D
I'm still on the lists for a SA,,, but I'm good until then;) Sometimes if you look REAL hard for something,,,,,,, something else pops up. Karma, I guess
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My first HP was purchased new in late 70's. Bright blue in the Browning red-lined rug. Good shooter but it eventually found a new home as I settled into L.E.
Had an itch for a .40 HP that I never scratched. Then I passed on a .40 HP Practical just after Browning announced HP's being discontinued. :(
Enter the SA-35. Don't NEED it,,,, but I'm on some order lists anyway.
In the interim, I found a LNIB 1980's Browning (Belgium/Portugal) HP with the factory LOW-mount adjustable sights. Bright blue, Ambi safety, three factory mags,,, and less that the SA-35 suggested retail.:D
I'm still on the lists for a SA,,, but I'm good until then;) Sometimes if you look REAL hard for something,,,,,,, something else pops up. Karma, I guess

I bought the SA-35 out of pure curiosity. I did not need it. Snap shot of part of my BHP collection. Not another clone in the bunch. Most of them are custom guns.

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My usual local guns shop is one of the sellers on GB selling them for way over the MSRP.

The next gun I purchase from them will be an SA-35 at MSRP, which means I haven't done business there in quite a while.

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In 37 years of hand gun buying I've learned that being an early adopter of a new handgun is almost never a good thing.

They all get rushed to market by the marketing folks who announce an upcoming release before the engineers and the production department have the bugs worked out.

What follows are customers with problems having to send them back for fixes that are not even developed yet. In some cases it's so bad it kills the reputation and long term sales of what is eventually a good handgun and it gets discontinued.

Oddly enough this risk of a product failure drives some people to buy early and pay way too much, which just encourages the marketing folks to push new designs out the door too soon.

Me? I'll wait however long it takes for a reliable product to finally start shipping, and selling at a normal price.
 
My usual local guns shop is one of the sellers on GB selling them for way over the MSRP.

The next gun I purchase from them will be an SA-35 at MSRP, which means I haven't done business there in quite a while.

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In 37 years of hand gun buying I've learned that being an early adopter of a new handgun is almost never a good thing.

They all get rushed to market by the marketing folks who announce an upcoming release before the engineers and the production department have the bugs worked out.

What follows are customers with problems having to send them back for fixes that are not even developed yet. In some cases it's so bad it kills the reputation and long term sales of what is eventually a good handgun and it gets discontinued.

Oddly enough this risk of a product failure drives some people to buy early and pay way too much, which just encourages the marketing folks to push new designs out the door too soon.

Me? I'll wait however long it takes for a reliable product to finally start shipping, and selling at a normal price.
 
My usual local guns shop is one of the sellers on GB selling them for way over the MSRP.

The next gun I purchase from them will be an SA-35 at MSRP, which means I haven't done business there in quite a while.

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In 37 years of hand gun buying I've learned that being an early adopter of a new handgun is almost never a good thing.

They all get rushed to market by the marketing folks who announce an upcoming release before the engineers and the production department have the bugs worked out.

What follows are customers with problems having to send them back for fixes that are not even developed yet. In some cases it's so bad it kills the reputation and long term sales of what is eventually a good handgun and it gets discontinued.

Oddly enough this risk of a product failure drives some people to buy early and pay way too much, which just encourages the marketing folks to push new designs out the door too soon.

Me? I'll wait however long it takes for a reliable product to finally start shipping, and selling at a normal price.

I agree for the most part. I believed that the extractor issues were worked out before I bought this one. I also did not overpay. From what I understand now my gun was made right before they changed the extractor to the newer version.
 
It was confirmed to me by a SA Customer Service Rep that around serial number 7000 the extractor design was changed. She would not go into further detail.


"Around", LOL...gotta love it. Mine is over 100 units north of that.
Hopefully tomorrow will be the first go-'round.
 
I'm not a huge fan of the HP platform. But I'd pick the Girsan over the SA, and not only for price.

The Girsan is pretty much a copy of the MkIII, so it is southpaw friendly.

Seems like a well made gun, especially for the cost.

I think 469 is the lowest I've seen on that for now. There's both a two-tone, and a full cerakote model option at extra cost.
 
Excellent write ups and reviews WVSig.

Mine is a low 8100 serial number. Maybe it had some of the kinks worked out before it was shipped. I put my name on a list at a local store in December, and I received it in May. I think I paid $649 + tax. First time at the range I shot 115gr and 124gr. It seemed to like the 124s while my CZ prefers the 115s. My shooting buddy and I went to the range last week and we ran several hundred rounds through the SA35 and the CZ. Mine has been good to go at this point but it is still early. For the entry price, I am pleased at this point.

Tim
 

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I have seen a few for sale in stores around SE PA. The last one I saw they wanted $795. I'm surprised they aren't more available by now.

I got my SA-35 at my local police supply for $605. Ordered it in November, got it in April. They didn't expect to see anymore of them any time soon.

Begs the question(s).....how does it run, and do you like shooting it?
Still waiting to see one in my neck of the woods
 
I bought mine over a year ago below MSRP. Well over 500 rounds down range with zero failures. I just wish they had a better front sight, but Dawson keeps saying they will have one for it soon.

The BHP I have has some old school C&S Custom work and is a much better shooter.
 

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Begs the question(s).....how does it run, and do you like shooting it?
Still waiting to see one in my neck of the woods

I've had it since April, have run about 600 rounds thru it so far. The pistol has run flawlessly thus far, good accuracy, very pleased with it. Most of the ammo has been FMJ, but I've run about 100 HST hollow points thru it as well. Several friends have shot it also, they all liked it.
 
Well, at least one of them is in my safe. Got lucky at a gunshow in Pasadena, Texas a while back and bought for below MSRP. Someone who had given it a good look, then turned it down came back after changing his mind. I had already handed over the cash and the paperwork was in process. You snooze you lose. Been on that end of the equation before, and I was happy to be the one who got it this time. Sharp edges is my main complaint. Also, the recoil spring was a half inch longer than OEM which is something I have seen from Wolff Springs. Makes me wonder. I installed a OEM spring and it has been flawless. When I get down to taking the extractor out I will check for the "rough channel" that some have talked about.


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Having the Same Issues, CANNOT FIND ONE

Been hunting one for about a month now too.

Just posted a WTB ad on the forum for one, lets see if any will come up

-Sam
 
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