Who has this scope? UTG 3-9x32 Bug Buster? What do you think about it?

[DeJays Saleen]

Thanks for everyone helps in my previous post about which scope I should go with, and I'm really leaning towards the UTG 3-9x32 Compact Bug Buster as seen below.

Amazon.com: UTG 3-9x32 Compact CQB Bug Buster AO RGB Scope with Med. Picatinny Rings, 2" Sunshade: Sports & Outdoors

I did want more of a tac looking (smaller) one, and a red dot, but this one seems to be really nice for the price. I wanted to see what people are saying about this one. Pics and info would be greatly appreciated. I'm looking for one to where I can see out to 100+ yards. Thanks!

 

[PHXSHOOTER]

For 80 bucks it certainly is a do it all scope. I can see why you picked it. Some of the reviewers had to exchange theirs because of misaligned reticules. That would indicate poor quality control. If you order it that is the first thing I would check to be sure you got a good one. Big red flag for me.

DeJays, I know your new, I just went back and read your other post. Please help yourself and others by not starting a new thread on the same subject. I started to write a long reply to today’s thread and then deleted it because I went back and saw that you had all kinds of guys helping you yesterday and I was saying the same things as them. This post belongs on your previous thread.

 

[DeJays Saleen]

My bad,... there was alot of different scopes being talked about and what not. I got it narrowed down to one I'm very interested in so I wanted to make a post to where people with that specific scope could tell me their thoughts, where I was afraid it would get lost in the other post. Sorry.

 

[PHXSHOOTER]

No biggie....just my .02 cents worth...and I'm no moderator...

 

[Aceman58]

Dejay, I too wanted to reach out and touch some"paper" at a distant other than 50 and 100 yards. So off with the Vortex Strikefire and on with the 1X-4X UTG scope. This still alows me to do CQB type shooting and make a quick adjustment for the long shots if needed. The 1X has a slight edge wave on the lense when used, as a 1X, but it still acceptable. But the 2X up up to 4X is great and I've improved my grouping for those shots. I'm pretty happy with UTG (Leaper's) product. I was looking at the one you got as well but wanted that 1X. Thanks

 

[Shivdaddy]

Dejays or anyone else get this scope recently? I am thinking about getting it.

 

[w0ady]

i have it and love it. at first i ran it with a high riser and the medium rings it came with. i then swapped that out for just a set of high rings to make it a lot less bulky. i use my red dot for the 15 yd indoor range and the scope for longer distances when i shoot outdoors. i recently tested it out to 25 yds and was able to see a 2" target very easily as well as put the entire magazine on target.

 

[Shivdaddy]

Question for your w0ady. If I buy that scope, what else do I have to buy to mount it? Would it be mountable without buying anything extra? Keep in mind I dont have a cool MOE version.

Also

What does co-witness mean? I see that phrase thrown around. Guessing it means the scope lines up with the end iron sight?

Thanks for your help

 

[w0ady]

some versions come with a set of medium height rings. if not, you just have to purchase a set of 1" rings. id recommend high to make it more natural to look through.

yup co-witness means lining up with your iron sights basically. a true co-witness means they all match up dead center or a lot of people like a lower 1/3 where the iron sights line up in the lower 1/3 of the optic.

 

[Kayback]

Co Witness is only really applicable to zero magnification sights like a red dot or a hologram sight. It allows you to use the back up iron sights through the optic tube of the red dots.

You won't really be able to use the front sight post with a magnified optic.

Lower 1/3 co witness means you can see the iron sights through the red dot tube, but they are below the red dot. It is preferable because the idea behind a red dot is a simple sight picture, and it prevents the user trying to line the front post, red dot and rear sight. It allows you to use the red dot as the primary sight but still allow quick transition to the red dot.

The absolute co witness means the sights and the dot are all on the same plane, meaning they can line up. But they shouldn't be lined up when shooting.

Personally I use the absolute co-witness when I am using folding sights. With them down there is no obstruction, but then you can flip them up to use them if the dot goes down.

I use a 1/3 co witness when I have fixed sights, because I don't want them in the way when I am using the dot, but want to be able to transition to them.

Some high rise or medium rise rings allow you to "see through" them to use the irons if you need to. I have never been able to use them effectively through the rings. You may have different experiences.

 

[Coots]

I can only give you my experience in what I've done in the past with my weapons. I never believed the 'buy cheap, buy twice' model... until I did it myself. I'm not saying go buy the $900 acog to sit on your 15-22, however, I am saying that it would benefit you to save your money and look into the other scopes already mentioned to you. Aka Nikon, etc.

If I did buy cheap, the only company I would look into would be Primary Arms.

 

[joshv06]

I just got this scope yesterday and mounted it on my UTG Carry Handle with ar-15 mount.

Amazon.com: UTG Detachable Rifle Carry Handle: Sports & Outdoors

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-AR-15-Military-Tactical-Mount/dp/B001WIUX88/ref=pd_sim_sg_5

One thing to keep in mind is that you might as well use the scope rings it comes with, I bought a lower set of scope rings:

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Strength-...qid=1341939808&sr=1-7&keywords=qd+scope+rings

And it did not give enough clearance for the front of the scope to have space between the scope mount.

It is a great scope, it is basically a smaller version of my UTG/Leapers 4-16x40 MD IR scope, and they are both extremely easy to work with the tool-free turrets.

Here are some pics I took today to give you an idea. I also have the UTG QD laser flashlight combo, and mounted the laser RIGHT UNDER the barrel! It's amazingly accurate with the bullet because of its position:

 

[Shivdaddy]

I just got this scope yesterday and mounted it on my UTG Carry Handle with ar-15 mount.

Amazon.com: UTG Detachable Rifle Carry Handle: Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com: UTG AR-15 Military Tactical Mount: Sports & Outdoors

One thing to keep in mind is that you might as well use the scope rings it comes with, I bought a lower set of scope rings:

Amazon.com: UTG Max Strength LE Grade Quick Detach Picatinny Scope Rings (2 Piece, 1-Inch Diam, 4-Screw Lo Profile): Sports & Outdoors

And it did not give enough clearance for the front of the scope to have space between the scope mount.

It is a great scope, it is basically a smaller version of my UTG/Leapers 4-16x40 MD IR scope, and they are both extremely easy to work with the tool-free turrets.

Here are some pics I took today to give you an idea. I also have the UTG QD laser flashlight combo, and mounted the laser RIGHT UNDER the barrel! It's amazingly accurate with the bullet because of its position:

I like your setup. To get the scope to see over the iron sights do I have to get that carry handle? It seems that might be the "best looking" way to accomplish getting the sight that high. Does anyone else have a suggestion on what to use to get the scope to see over the iron sight?

Josh, you said you bought the lower set of scope rings. Is that because it would of looked silly with the med rings on top of the handle?

Thanks guys!

 

[joshv06]

I like your setup. To get the scope to see over the iron sights do I have to get that carry handle? It seems that might be the "best looking" way to accomplish getting the sight that high. Does anyone else have a suggestion on what to use to get the scope to see over the iron sight?

Josh, you said you bought the lower set of scope rings. Is that because it would of looked silly with the med rings on top of the handle?

Thanks guys!

Thanks, I like the tactical look of the carry handle, and you can see the iron sights through it with a scope mounted. I bought the lower rings to have it as close to the barrel as possible, to have less deviation on elevation at different distances, but I guess I can settle for a very slightly taller scope.

 

[TylorR]

So you're able to use the sights in the carry handle with no problems? It lines up to the rail mounted front sight? And also, are you at the bottom end of the adjustment on the bug buster? I'm tempted to go this route.

 

[Kayback]

I still don't know if the sight overhandle is a good idea.

It really does depend on what you want your rifle for. But the sight height on the carry handle is already 2.5" over the bore, and the sight on top of the rail is at least another 1" above that.

They developed flat topped rifles for a reason.

While some people have said there is an advantage in .22 of having the scope mounted so high off the bore, I can not see that. Especially in these days of offset irons or offset rds to be able to use close in sights and have a magnified optic on the rifle.

There is a VERY little gap under the rail on a carry handle, and it will be much slower than using the standard iron sights.

The sights on a carry handle should be the same height as the irons, because they are all the same family of sights. AR sights all work with the fixed front sight, and they will all work with folding rear and folding front sights. It is what they are designed to do.

ONE thing though, there is a slightly different front sight post designed to be used in H&K 416 and H&K 417 rifles. Because of how the piston guns are set up they need a different sight (I do not know exactly what, I have never seen one of these posts) they don't work with a standard AR rear sight though. You'll max out the sight before getting it zeroed.

KBK

 

[TacoDaTugBoat]

Well, I should be getting one of these scopes tomorrow. I have been hitting 2" steel targets pretty well at 50y. But my eyes have always sucked. I am hoping to be able to hit the same targets about every time at 100y. First thing I will check when unboxing is that the cross hairs line up with the turrets.

 

[johnr43]

Scopes...

Thanks for everyone helps in my previous post about which scope I should go with, and I'm really leaning towards the UTG 3-9x32 Compact Bug Buster as seen below.....

I have the UTG 3-9x32 scope and THIS ONE also on my Rock River Arms LAR-15 and for me having 12x give a better at 100 yards. No red dot - mil-spec reticle. Both work really well for me and seem strudy and nice looking.

As an aside, the more "tactical (smaller dimensions) the less the magnification. here's how each looks. Maybe not "tac" in size but not "tacky" either!

 

[cryptiq]

I have the UTG 3-9x32 scope and THIS ONE also on my Rock River Arms LAR-15 and for me having 12x give a better at 100 yards. No red dot - mil-spec reticle. Both work really well for me and seem strudy and nice looking.

As an aside, the more "tactical (smaller dimensions) the less the magnification. here's how each looks. Maybe not "tac" in size but not "tacky" either!

I've been considering both of these scopes myself. Other than the magnification differences, do you have a preference one way or the other for either of them?

 

[gr8jab]

I had an economy scope from NcSTAR, and it used to move zero as I zoom.

You might want to check for a similar behavior.