Who Is Still Hoarding?

I reload the pistol ammo so I don't really hoard, but I am getting low on primers and bullets.I may have to start casting my own bullets and pay the price for primers.The reason I started reloading was the cost of .38 spl. (7.00-8.00/50rd box)and I could reload at the time for 7.00/100.I do have plenty of .22 ammo in the type that I shoot and have been able to find it to replace what I shoot up along with a few 1000 extra.I would buy more .223 and 30/06, but I won't pay the price it seems to sell for so I may start to reload that as well.A few years ago I wasn't able to justify reloading the 223 as I would only have only saved 25.00/500, but with todays prices maybe I could save enough to justify it, if I can find primers.I may also have to rethink reloading 9mm as well.
With democrats controlling the administration, house, and senate I can see why hoarding/preparing may continue and I don't blame anybody for buying all they can afford and store.
 
I don't hoard. Even when the frenzy was going strong I left some for the next guy/gal. If I run across half a dozen boxes, I'll buy two and leave the rest for someone else. But I don't mind hoarders as much as I dislike scalpers. Yeah, I know. Free enterprise and all that. But I hate it when someone buys up everything on the shelf, just so he can sell it for double or triple the price. I'll carry a stick before I'll buy from them!
 
This reminds me of my father telling me how hard it was to get shotgun shells during WWII to hunt with.

During the war, he said he only shot when he knew the round would be lethal on the game he was shooting, because ammunition was so hard to obtain, especially shotgun shells and .22 rimfire, but if you had something odd, you could likely find ammunition for it.

The only way he could get shells was because he was friends with our local state representative who was on the draft board, CD, etc. When the rep got a box of shotgun shells, he'd split it up and give five rounds to each of his friends that needed them to hunt. It went on like that until father was drafted in 1945. He was sent home from training when the war ended.
 
I didn't hoard. I once bought all three boxes of .30 carbine in stock at Wally World when I only intended to buy one, but that was to annoy the mouthbreather behind me who had been rude to a woman and baby a few minutes before. I dislike rudeness, especially to kids. No ammo for him that day.
 
There was short period of buy at any price on my part. Fortunately, that was short lived. My brother started buying hunting rounds before the prices felt the effect of the anti-gun lobby electing their dream team. Because of him, I had been shopping many sources. A few big purchases through mail order companies, before they went price crazy, helped. Also, I found a few good stores that stayed reasonable with their prices. Now that things are getting somewhat better I can shop locally with the stores that treated customers right during the worst of the crunch. As to the hoarding question. What is too much when using 500 to 1,000 rounds each month at the range?
 
I just started to reload right before the current shortage. I was able to build up 10k primers before the bottom fell out. Started to cast my own kind of by mistake..found a nice Lyman bottom pour for 15.00 and a 2x Lee mold. I just recently purchased a 6x mold and have access to all the wheel weights I need. Now I should have enough to get me through for a long time. I am replacing what I shoot as far as primers are concerned and have alot of brass on deck.
 
I have a .357 magnum and where I live there is one gun shop who is way over priced and wally world. I buy whatever I can at wally world when and if they have it. I have been buying several boxes of winchester .38 +p personal defense from the walmart in the next town, only thing is that they have put a limit to one box per caliber per day per person. I guess I will be buying as much as possible as long as I can afford it.
 
a concern

Some guys house caught on fire recently and the fire fighters had to let it burn for a while due to all the stored ammo going off.
 
Fla_Sun said:
Some guys house caught on fire recently and the fire fighters had to let it burn for a while due to all the stored ammo going off.
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A very widely held misconception.

I think I first read the answer in Hatcher's Notebook, but it confirmed my childhood experience of throwing a few .22s in the campfire on many occasions.

The maximum pressure a cartridge can generate outside a barrel is equal to the force holding the bullet in the neck. Once the bullet leaves the neck, the pressure is zero, and any velocity decays from there. If a cartridge went off in your shirt pocket, being burned by the powder and gasses is way more likely than any possible harm from the projectile.

Primers and black powder are a different thing since they're explosive. Smokeless powder and the ammunition loaded with it are no big deal.

/c
 
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Chuck Jones said:
A very widely held misconception.

I think I first read the answer in Hatcher's Notebook, but it confirmed my childhood experience of throwing a few .22s in the campfire on many occasions.

The maximum pressure a cartridge can generate outside a barrel is equal to the force holding the bullet in the neck. Once the bullet leaves the neck, the pressure is zero, and any velocity decays from there. If a cartridge went off in your shirt pocket, being burned by the powder and gasses is way more likely than any possible harm from the projectile.

Primers and black powder are a different thing since they're explosive. Smokeless powder and the ammunition loaded with it are no big deal.

/c
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This is true. The bullet stays in place because it is heavier, and it is actually the case that will move upon the ignition. When nothing is holding the cartridge still, IE a chamber of a gun, the case, the lightest part, will be what is displaced.
 
what happens to all the energy expended by the burning powder contained in 10K rounds of ammo, say 223 or 308?
 
Fla_Sun said:
what happens to all the energy expended by the burning powder contained in 10K rounds of ammo, say 223 or 308?
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It burns, with the energy being dissipated to the path of least resistance. In other words, if it does not HAVE to make an object move, it won't. Pressure needs to build to shoot a bullet, and this cannot be done in an open air environment.

Same concept as to why bullets shot out of longer barrels travel faster than those shot out of shorter barrels. When the amount of pressure, and the time exposed to that pressure is reduced or eliminated, velocity declines to eventually nothing. The law of inertia at work :D
 
I bought two 100 round boxes of wwb for 22 each and four 50 round boxes of federal 9mm for 10 each. I would have bought every box of 9mm if they would have let me.
 
If it's there and I feel the need, I buy it. I've got enough but there's always room for another box or two.
 
Ammunition stock is up in my area

The Academy Sports in Nashville has many brands of ammunition. They are selling a Remington 9mm 100 pack for $24.99. That is $5.00 cheaper than I paid for that same box back in June. I usually don't hourd, but at that price, I couldn't pass it up.
 
Checking back in my ammo log book, since 8/26/09 when I started keeping track, I have spent 2242.14 on ammo this year. So my guess would be close to 3000.00 dollars on ammo this year. Does anyone else keep an ammo log book? Ammo purchased, rounds fired, and so on.

The log book does not include blackpowder items.
 
I am going to have to start a log so I know exactly what I have. When I started buying I filled an ammo can and put in a pack of silica gel and put the can away. Now I label the cans when I fill them. Since I shoot at least 10 calibers, I have completely lost touch with what I have and when I bought it. I expect if I dug deep enough in my closet I could find US Military suplus 45 shells that I purchased in the 1960's. Had to sell my guns back then so I could complete college and didn't have a 45 in which to use the ammo.
 
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