Who Killed JFK?

[Andy Griffith]

No matter who did it, he's still dead as 4 o'clock, as well as nearly all the Kennedy clan.

 

[P&R Fan]

Miss Scarlett....In the Billiards Room.....With the knife.

 

[jrm53]

Kennedy killing

In 2003 I videoed all of the History Channels 1 hour presentations on the killing, I think there were 6 or 7 hours of it and it caused more questions than it answered. I was 23 years old that Nov. 1963 and a friend had a 6.5 Carcano rifle like they said was used neither of us that had shot or handled it thought you could work it that fast or hit that well with one. That said if you want something that will really blow your mind get a copy of the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger ISBN 0-312-08074-3 and read it. I think that the theory put forth in the book by Howard Donahue a man with a great understanding of ballistics expains why the brain disappeared in the autopsy and after almost 71 years of seeing the US governmennt in operation I can see how this SNAFU came about. They ( the author and the ballistican) even name the shooter. New info I googled the shooters name to find out why he didnt sue the authors, he did but the judge threw it out because he waited to long after the book was published. The gist of the book was it was accidental and not intentional. Jeff

 

[GatorFarmer]

Who pulled the trigger? Someone shady and expendable. It was quite possibly Woody Harrelson's dad. He was almost certainly one of the tramps on the Grassy Knoll and later went to prison for killing a Federal Judge. He certainly was a bonafide hitman.

Bush (I) apparently was in Dallas that day, btw.

Who gave the order? Eh. What you have to realize is that this sort of thing gets complicated, not much is written down, and what is written down is destroyed. (Don't believe me? Try to find some meaningful MK-Ultra documents or learn about the experimental use of germ warfare by the US Army in Korea conducted by Japanese scientists now working for "us".)

Oswald was an expendable too, though who's is the question. He was almost certainly supposed to meet his handler in the theater where he was caught. Sometimes you don't even know who you're working for and what the agenda is. You do it either because you believe the lie and think it is all for the good, or sometimes for the money, or sometimes just because you sort of fall into it.

I don't know that "conspiracy" is the right word, it is simply how things get done. Differing agendas and sometimes things overlap.

 

[Texas Star]

The article that I cited discussed an FBI agent who had a mobster talking to him, and was hot on the trail of really solid evidence that the mob did it. FBI HQ told him to desist. I think that Hoover was involved, or knew, and did nothing to stop the murder. If nothing else, he was covering for whoever did it. And I think Hoover has been discovered to be close to certain mobsters. If memory serves, the Bureau didn't take down the mob seriously until Hoover passed? Do any agents on this board know, or can they say?

That article makes more sense than anything else that I've read on the matter.

BTW, I do believe that Bobby Kennedy was behind Marilyn Monroe's death.

T-Star

 

[David1958]

In the end, unfortunately, it doesn't matter who did it, or why. The President Of The United States was killed that day in Dallas. I think it's safe to say that things in this country began their long, sad, slow slide that day regardless of your politics.

 

[ancient-one]

Yes, it was a sad day in the history of our nation. When you think about it, ask yourself two questions. What Texas politican had, from his early days, the reputation of stopping at nothing to obtain what he wanted? What politican had the most to gain?

 

[GatorFarmer]

I think Hoover has been discovered to be close to certain mobsters. If memory serves, the Bureau didn't take down the mob seriously until Hoover passed? Do any agents on this board know, or can they say?

That article makes more sense than anything else that I've read on the matter.

BTW, I do believe that Bobby Kennedy was behind Marilyn Monroe's death.

Hoover's job, when he was around, was as the sort of internal security/secret police head of the United States. As such, he was actually correct, more or less, for what he was up to, the mob was small potatoes stuff and simply not all that important. They did things then that today states do, for example since the lotteries came along, there's no more numbers running and the credit card companies charge worse interest than neighborhood loansharks ever did. Insofar as the FBI ever pursued "criminals", it was for publicity and a sideline for the real tasks of maintaining power and the status quo.

Bobby Kennedy didn't have the sort of friends to take care of something like Marilyn. Just his dad's old cronies from the crime days, and they weren't exactly big shots. Marilyn simply killed herself and the scene had to be cleaned up altered so that any potential incriminating things were removed. Nothing all that sinister as far the long history of sinister things go.

Talk to anyone who's been around. Most things aren't that interesting or that good of a story and no one person ever has all that many details anyway. The game of intelligence is partly controlling who knows or thinks what.

 

[Strato]

The special I watched showed how the shot came from the wrong direction to have been Oswald and the shells were on the wrong side of the room to have been ejected from that rifle. Not to mention that the rifle presented to the judge wasn't even the same model of the one found in the room. It takes someone with a lot of power to get away with such a poorly planned setup.

 

[charlie sherrill]

I read a while back that Oswald may have given the info the Russians needed to shoot down Francis Gary Powers and his spy plane and that he had other Russian and Combloc (read Cuba) connections. He was also married to a Russian woman that apparently not much is known about. LBJ had ambitions as did the mob. We were supposed to see te sealed records in 2013 but that has apparently been put off. If we wait until everybody involved is dead to see all the records I probably won't be here either. I've been following this stuff since it happened. I sure would like to know the truth before I die. Ain't likely to happen.

 

[357larry]

I think ancient-one is on the right track, LBJ. I remember watching a program on the History channel years ago that had audio recordings of meetings between LBJ and several defense contractors. The defense contractors were worried that Kennedy was going to get us out of Vietnam therefore ending their cash cow. LBJ was heard saying that if they (the defense contractors) would take care of Kennedy, then he (Johnson) would see to it that they all become rich.

 

[J. W.]

What I know is this: the assassination of Jack Kennedy, followed by Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy, began the long slide into darkness on which we are still. While it is certain that elements within the CIA were furious with Jack Kennedy for pulling the air cover for the Bay of Pigs operation (don't ask me how I know that), that Sam Giancana and others in the Mob were furious with him for ending their sweet deal in Cuba, and that Castro had enough justification for a reprisal, none of these speculations has stood the test of time because of the simple fact that large organizations leak like sieves. Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, gets my vote. But again, it matters not. The fact that so many of us are willing to even entertain the idea of a massive cover-up of the murder of a President should tell us what we really need to know -- big institutions in this country are not trusted, and the corrosion continues day by day.


Bullseye

Excellent post, sir!


I'm still somewhat undecided, but I lean toward the Warren Commission's findings.

 

[dacoontz]

Onassis did it of course. Jackie wanted out. How's that? And I have Ruby's Cobra.

I was just wondering if you'd show up. The story of how you acquired that gun is awesome. Any updates on what you've done with it or if anybody has thrown some offers at you for it.

Sorry, off topic, kind of. I don't have an opinion but I am not sure how I feel about an overpriviledged rich boy whose family got rich during the prohibition being leader of the free world. Although, I wasn't around but he seemed to want to do good things for humanity and it does seem like things in this country changed after that day. I would think that if someone or some organization could find out a way to get away with killing the president then things in this country would never be able to go back to it's innocence. Because of my age, I unfortunately never knew any different.

 

[bulletproof-791]

Elvis did it with the help of jimmy hoffa and oj simpson

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Lee Harvey Oswald, who also occupies Lee Harvey Oswald's tomb, did it with a cheap Italian rifle and marine marksmen training. Why? Because he would literally do anything to be well known.

 

[beach elvis]

Elvis did it with the help of jimmy hoffa and oj simpson

Thanks for not typing, "beach" as the first word in your post.

Seriously though, I was enthralled by the History Channel series. I'm not sure of their specific motivations but I'm convinced the mob was behind it. Castro said that the russians told him to watch Kennedy's back. So much for the cubans or the Red Threat.

I'd LOVE to know what Ruby and Hoover knew, I can sure tell ya that.

 

[bmcgilvray]

My son and I ran over to Dallas on a "father and son day out" last summer before he entered the Marine Corps and went to the 6th floor museum. We also poked around the site. This was only the second time I've ever walked over the grounds since the event though I've been along Elm Street a number of times over the years.

We took some photos of the grassy knoll and saw a suspicious character in one of them.

In the first one shown here, there appears to be someone behind the bushes.

He's gone in the second photo.

Now what do you think of that?

Here's an enhanced copy of the elusive image behind the bushes.

"X" marks the spot of the second bullet's impact. This photo was made of the sixth floor window while standing on the "X" on the pavement.

Looking over the wooden fence atop the grassy knoll reveals ... nothing.

Looking over the wooden fence from the other side, toward Elm Street reveals ... a camera fooled by the glare.

Note the cryptic message "Russia knows..." This has to be some sort of clue.

 

[handejector]

bmcgilvray-
You've solved the mystery!
Them's tha guys!
an you got pics!

WHICH WAY DID THEY GO????

 

[R. G. Amos]

I will say again: I had absolutely nothing to do with this

 

[BUFF]

I forgot who wrote this first, but it about sums it up: "People just refuse to believe that some loser with a thirty dollar rifle blew away Camelot."

I took a course in college about the assasination and the conspiracy theories surrounding it. At the end of the course, the professor said, "Looking it from every angle we can, it looks like Oswald actually did it, acting alone. But, it's all just so CURIOUS!"