Since I already have three of them the wife asked why I needed a third one.
I told her this one was Turkish and was a little different.
I acquired the Ukelele case a couple years ago - in a gun shop no less - to use with my Uzi but it never quite worked. It does however fit this CAI imported MKE made MP5 clone quite well.
Importing the media misnamed “assault rifles” as pistols has so far not been drawn into the scope of the 922(r) restrictions, and once here, you can then add a pistol brace, SBR them, or just use a sling properly set up to “push pull” and stabilize the pistol.
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As a partial aside and frankly as one of the motivators to buy this particular pistol, the BATF put out a new proposed rule to apply factors and a worksheet to determine whether a braced pistol is in fact an SBR. The very restrictive nature do the proposed worksheet 4999 will effectively reclassify the vast majority of braced pistols as short barreled rifles and require the owners to either convert to to unbraced pistols, install a longer barrel to reclassify them as rifles, or submit a Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp fee to register them as short barreled rifles.
The proposed rules are open for public comment until midnight on September 8 2021.
Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
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I have serious reservations about anything related to CAI as the angry beavers there can screw up pretty much anything. I categorically will not buy anything CAI makes or otherwise assembles, but I will buy both new and surplus firearms that they do not otherwise molest.
In this case, looking at the history of these Turkish made MP5s and their import history it seems CAI has had a positive effect, with CAI inspectors at the factory inspecting them before they ship.
prior to CAI becoming the US importer, Zenith had some significant QA issues on the MKE MP5s they imported as the Z5-RS and CAI seems to have resolved those issues with a much better relationship with MKE.
The finish quality on this isn’t quite at the same level as the HK-94, or the HK-91 I used to own, but it’s close. The welds are a little more evident, but still very well done. The internal machining of the bolt carrier and roller locking system is superb.
In addition to the HK Tri-lug attachment for the flash hider, the barrel is also threaded 1/2-28 with a thread protector, so there are two different suppressor mount options.
The trigger is a typical long and slightly creepy HK trigger, but it’s not bad at all by HK clone standards and overall quality appears to be very good.
I like the slim, old school, hand guard, but the wider “tropical” hand guard will also fit just fine.
The MKE MP5 clone also uses a push pin in the front of the trigger assembly like the MP5 and uses a welded cross bar to prevent the use of a full auto bolt carrier.
As configured it weighs 8 pounds 7 oz with a full 30 round magazine, but at 116 oz empty I’d does come in under ATF’s proposed 120 oz upper limit for a braced handgun. However the SB-PDW style brace will accrue 2 points and the 13” length of pull will pick up 3 more points kicking it into the SBR category if the rules are adopted as proposed, just based on the brace alone.
It also comes with a very close knock off of the B&T optics mount and I’ll probably install one of the dot, ring and dot, or ring reticle capable Holosun sights on it.
I told her this one was Turkish and was a little different.
I acquired the Ukelele case a couple years ago - in a gun shop no less - to use with my Uzi but it never quite worked. It does however fit this CAI imported MKE made MP5 clone quite well.
Importing the media misnamed “assault rifles” as pistols has so far not been drawn into the scope of the 922(r) restrictions, and once here, you can then add a pistol brace, SBR them, or just use a sling properly set up to “push pull” and stabilize the pistol.
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As a partial aside and frankly as one of the motivators to buy this particular pistol, the BATF put out a new proposed rule to apply factors and a worksheet to determine whether a braced pistol is in fact an SBR. The very restrictive nature do the proposed worksheet 4999 will effectively reclassify the vast majority of braced pistols as short barreled rifles and require the owners to either convert to to unbraced pistols, install a longer barrel to reclassify them as rifles, or submit a Form 1 and a $200 tax stamp fee to register them as short barreled rifles.
The proposed rules are open for public comment until midnight on September 8 2021.
Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
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I have serious reservations about anything related to CAI as the angry beavers there can screw up pretty much anything. I categorically will not buy anything CAI makes or otherwise assembles, but I will buy both new and surplus firearms that they do not otherwise molest.
In this case, looking at the history of these Turkish made MP5s and their import history it seems CAI has had a positive effect, with CAI inspectors at the factory inspecting them before they ship.
prior to CAI becoming the US importer, Zenith had some significant QA issues on the MKE MP5s they imported as the Z5-RS and CAI seems to have resolved those issues with a much better relationship with MKE.
The finish quality on this isn’t quite at the same level as the HK-94, or the HK-91 I used to own, but it’s close. The welds are a little more evident, but still very well done. The internal machining of the bolt carrier and roller locking system is superb.
In addition to the HK Tri-lug attachment for the flash hider, the barrel is also threaded 1/2-28 with a thread protector, so there are two different suppressor mount options.
The trigger is a typical long and slightly creepy HK trigger, but it’s not bad at all by HK clone standards and overall quality appears to be very good.
I like the slim, old school, hand guard, but the wider “tropical” hand guard will also fit just fine.
The MKE MP5 clone also uses a push pin in the front of the trigger assembly like the MP5 and uses a welded cross bar to prevent the use of a full auto bolt carrier.
As configured it weighs 8 pounds 7 oz with a full 30 round magazine, but at 116 oz empty I’d does come in under ATF’s proposed 120 oz upper limit for a braced handgun. However the SB-PDW style brace will accrue 2 points and the 13” length of pull will pick up 3 more points kicking it into the SBR category if the rules are adopted as proposed, just based on the brace alone.
It also comes with a very close knock off of the B&T optics mount and I’ll probably install one of the dot, ring and dot, or ring reticle capable Holosun sights on it.
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