Why such a difference in value between 625 and 610 revolvers?

The 610, 625 & 629, three you must have.

I picked up all three from a retiring shooter last fall, all were in excellent shape. About $750 each in Northern Nevada.
 
I have never understood the attraction of a revolver shooting a semi-auto round and requiring moon clips. The .45 ACP and .45 Colt have about the same ballistics. I own 1911s in .45 ACP and revolvers in .45 Colt. The .357 magnum and 10mm ballistics overlap by around 95%. I own a Glock G20 SF and 1911s in 10mm and revolvers in .357 magnum.
 
I have never understood the attraction of a revolver shooting a semi-auto round and requiring moon clips........

Well, then I guess we have nothing to talk about! :) (Just kidding!)

I could easily turn this statement around to say "I have never understood the attraction of a revolver that doesn't use moon clips!"

The attraction to me, (and to a lot of other folks, I believe) is that every moon clip is a "speedloader", facilitating very rapid loading, unloading, and reloading. It also helps to keep your brass "organized" for retrieval if you reload quickly at a range - it's easier to find an empty six-round moon clip on the ground than it is to find six individual empty cases!

I can also carry a speedloader pouch on my belt and rapidly switch my revolver between a moon clip full of FMJ's to a moon clip full of snake shot. Could this be done with individual cartridges? Sure, but it's a lot slower.

If rapid revolver reloads aren't of interest to you, then I suppose moon-clip capable revolvers aren't either. I own both types of revolvers, and like owning both. (I even own single action revolvers).

But if I ever reached for a revolver for a combat situation, or to play pistol games such as USPSA, I would definitely reach for a moon-clip revolver over a "traditional" revolver, for the rapid reload advantage it brings.

Lou
 
LimaCharlie, if you own and shoot a Glock, I don't see any way you will appreciate a fine all metal, stainless steel revolver. Nor can you see why anyone else would. Perhaps different people like different things?

I don't know anyone who is proud of his Glock but I know many shooters who love their S&W revolvers.
 
LimaCharlie, if you own and shoot a Glock, I don't see any way you will appreciate a fine all metal, stainless steel revolver. Nor can you see why anyone else would. Perhaps different people like different things?

I don't know anyone who is proud of his Glock but I know many shooters who love their S&W revolvers.

I'm proud of my glocks! :)
 
LimaCharlie, if you own and shoot a Glock, I don't see any way you will appreciate a fine all metal, stainless steel revolver. Nor can you see why anyone else would. Perhaps different people like different things?

I don't know anyone who is proud of his Glock but I know many shooters who love their S&W revolvers.

I buy and shoot Glocks because they are reliable tools. Certainly not beautiful, but they do what they were designed to do.

Been looking for a 610 but have given up on finding a reasonable deal. The current going rate of 4" or shorter barrel pre-lock 610s is sky high. I have spent less money to purchase a 3" 625-3, a 10MM Glock 20SF, and a Lone Wolf 40MM conversion barrel....and ammo.
 
I have never understood the attraction of a revolver shooting a semi-auto round and requiring moon clips. The .45 ACP and .45 Colt have about the same ballistics. I own 1911s in .45 ACP and revolvers in .45 Colt. The .357 magnum and 10mm ballistics overlap by around 95%. I own a Glock G20 SF and 1911s in 10mm and revolvers in .357 magnum.

I've never understood it either so I purchased a 625 JM a few days ago to see why so many people shoot them. I reload for my 2 1911's so thought this would fit into my program. Who know's, I may find that I don't like fooling around with moon clips, I don't know. I loaded a bunch last night and that part seemed pretty easy. Going to the range on Monday to see how I like the rest of it. Only part that may get tedious is the
de-mooning but I think that won't be any worse than picking up brass. Another thing that appeals to me is the 45 ACP range brass is cheap at $65/1000. Try that with a 45 Colt or a 44 Spl. I guess I'm trying to say I'm looking for economy more than anything else because I'm retired and don't have the money I used to have to throw at ammo anymore, especially since the great ammo debacle of 2012. I can see S&W coming out with a 40 L or 9 mm J frame sometime soon with all the new reloaders about. You read it here first. Jim
 
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Jack said it! A lot fewer made and people that have them, hold onto them and people that don't have them, want them, thus the price goes UP! I believe economist call it supply and demand. :D

Darn horders!!! But I guess I am one since I bought this new.



Using a 38-40 LRNFP, I found that it excelled as a pin gun.
 
The whole concept of moon clip reloading probably took root in me after my first centerfire wheelgun was my Dads' 1917 which he packed in WWI and WWII(along with a Colt 1908 when protocol for Naval Officers required a less obvious sidearm). I just thought those 3 shot half moon clips were the neatest thing since the milking machine. Still got that 1917 too, sent it back to S&W for a refinish as it was so white it looked like stainless after half century of being hauled around in an SD Meyers rendition of a military holster(still got that too).
After trusting an Army recruiter in 1960 I became an Army Aviator where they handed me a M10 RB and a shoulder holster that had 18 cartridge loops sewed onto the strap. Shortly thereafter I acquired a Browning HP, a Python and a Randall #14 knife. Paid more for the knife than either of the two guns, still got all those too.
When the 940 came out it crossed my mind that it would make a good BUG for the BHP-I had become a cop in 1965. One could even load the 940 by thumbing 9mm rounds into the chambers out of BHP mag if needed(just could not get them out so easy). I usually carried 3 extra 5 shot 9mm clips in a tube type belt holster that was made for a old type Mace cannister, fit perfectly. For over 20 years I packed that combo with 2 mags for the BHP and 3 reloads for the 940. Carried the 940 in a left hand pocket holster. In a possible gun grab situtation I would put the BHP on "half cock" and the safety on. In the unlikely someone got the Browning he would take a long time to figure how to make it go bang, much too long for the comfort of his life insurance carrier.
I even got to the point of having my uniform pants and jackets altered with a leather lined left pocket.
I became so enamored with the 9mm revolvers(surplus ammo was sooo cheap), that I acquired 2 more 940s, a 940-1, the .356TSW 940, and a 940 3" barrel. About that time Ruger got on the 9mm revolver wagon and they were going pretty cheaply as with the 940 no one seemed to want them so I got 2 SP101s, another with the 3" barrel and an adjustable rear sight (which Ruger swears they never made), and 2 2.75" Ruger Speed Sixes, one Blue one Stainless. I also acquired a Ruger Service Six 9mm and sent it to Cylinder & Slide with instructions to make a accurate and slick shooting service gun, and they did. The only gun that will out shoot it is the 4" 625 I acquired, along with a couple 3" 625s, a 5" and 3" 610, and a 646(the non PC model). Did I forget the 3" and 4" 547s? And the matched pair of Ruger Bisley stocked New Blackhawks w/dual cylinders.Both are more accurate with the ACP cylinders than the .45 Colt cylinders-probably the ammo.
With the exception of the 547s and the Blackhawks all are moon clip guns. I have found the right size holders for all the moon clips, including a couple of the old "drop pouches" that LOBO Gunleather made for me that carry .45 ACP in 2 shot (1/3 moon clips?).
I just got the Charter Arms Bulldog in .40 S&W that does not require clips and after over 300 rounds it has worked perfectly. And. oh yeah I have an old Charter Arms that works with clips but was made for the now extinct Federal 9mm rimmed cartridge that I still have a few hundred rounds for(no, not for sale).I found a couple of 940 cylinders a couple of years ago, and one fits perfectly in a M60, the other has to be fitted, sometimes you just get lucky. I plan to have it fitted into a M42 or M38. I would love to get one fitted into the M60-4 and wind up with a target sighted 3" Smith 9mm, but I don't think it is going to happen.
The 940 356TSW can eat some incredibly hot ammo (9X21.5), as well as 380, and some other stuff. Just don't plan on reloading the .380 cases.
I just discovered that my 632 Pro will shoot .32 ACP, although I don't know why I would do a lot of that, low power and expensive.
In case you had not noticed, I like to shoot semi auto ammo in revolvers. Started out because surplus .45 ACP was cheap (and acquirable as I spent 36 years in the reserve componnents) and accurate. Same for 9mm these days. And a good 9mm load takes one into low end .357 Mag territory, and well, the 10mm and .40 are in a classs by themselves.
Got a 325NG coming in soon................wife will understand-I hope.
 
LimaCharlie, if you own and shoot a Glock, I don't see any way you will appreciate a fine all metal, stainless steel revolver. Nor can you see why anyone else would. Perhaps different people like different things?

I don't know anyone who is proud of his Glock but I know many shooters who love their S&W revolvers.


I own many S&W, Colt, and Ruger single-action and double-action revolvers. I have speed loaders for the double-actions and carry them for both self-defense and hunting. I owned a Colt .45ACP revolver back in the 1960s with moon clips. The moon clips had to be in a heavy case to keep from bending. You couldn't carry them in your pocket. They were a pain in the butt to reload fast because I usually had to stop and bend the moon clips back before inserting. I don't care if someone else loves moon clip revolvers. I have just never understood why I would want one after the one I owned and sold after a few range trips.

I didn't say I was proud of my Glock G20 SF 10mm. It is a tool that goes bang every time and carries fifteen plus one rounds of .357 magnum level 10mm ammunition. What is not to like?

I am proud of my revolver collection and my 1911 collection!
 
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Just Curious

Not trying to sidetrack this, but I have a question, if someone can answer:

The 25/325/625's all have a large(r) space between the rear of the cylinder & the frame/breach, as well as between the front of the cylinder & the frame/yoke, than regular revolvers. This is one aspect of these (I have a 325NG) that I've thought detracked appearance wise. In looking at the pictures of the 610s (never saw one in person) here, I don't see those same large spaces. I always figured that the front space was because of the 45ACP's short case length (short cylinder) & the rear space is because of the need for ACP moon-clips & Auto Rims. The 10mm case is longer than the 45ACP (.992" vs .898") but the max cartridge overall length of the 45ACP is longer (1.275" vs 1.260") than the 10mm.

So why don't they appear the same? Are the cylinder faces of the 610s recessed/cut for the moon-clips to eliminate the rear gap, unlike the 625s? Are the 610 cylinders just longer than the 625's & eliminate the front gap? My 325 cylinder is 1.540" long of which ~.725" is the throats. How do the 610's compare? Just curious.
 
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Bluedot, your eyes need re-calibration. I checked the spacing between the rear of the cylinder and the frame of both a 610 and an N frame in .45 ACP and they are both the same at 0.095". That is the space that is necessary for the thickness of the rim, plus the moon clip. I placed both guns side by side and the cylinders are the same length as are the frame windows.
 
My 325NG has a similar (.103") gap at the rear of the cylinder. Between the front of the cylinder & the yoke there's .247" gap. I found an archive photo of the 310NG at S&W's website and that picture looks the same, gap wise, as my 325NG. Maybe it's the angle of the 610 photos here, but the gaps just look different.

Also found a picture that shows the 610 cylinders are not cut/recessed for moon-clips.
 
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