Why the disdain for “rich” people ?

During my extensive time at the local bars studying human nature, I have found rich people to be much like vegans. You don't have to ask; they will tell you soon enough. When they flash their Rolexes and wads of bills, I counter with a stack of overdue-payment second and third notices.
 
I once thought anyone with a million or more in net worth would be rich. With inflation in today's world that's really not true any more.

I saw a statistic that nearly a quarter of US households have a net worth over a million today. Much of that is home equity with today's sky high home prices rather than available to invest or spend, though.
According to the 2022 Survey of Consumer Finances by the Federal Reserve, about 12% of U.S. households have a net worth over \$1 million.

Wealth in CA, TX, FL is different from wealth in MT, ND, MS.
 
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I think we have to agree to disagree, I simply do not hold truck with anyone's skills or talents - especially of those currently alive - being 'worth' that much more than their fellow man's. Then figure in the typical advantages such a person gets - Lon and his dad's mine, etc - it doesn't balance.

Sorry, I disagree, and firmly.

*You should also research the company Tesla, as much of what you state there is incorrect, it's not existing with Musk, etc.
And you probably disagree that a 29-2 is worth $5k or a pre-war HD worth $10k and yet we saw those prices yesterday. The market is the authority on value, one's work or one's assets.

For whatever its worth, my Dad would have agreed with you 100%.
 
I don't think its so much the money as it is what kind of person you are. Some rich people are caring, generous and contribute to their community and worthy causes. They're good people trying to help and make a difference.
Then you have the wealthy people who are greedy, untrustworthy and nefarious. These are the ones who have more money than they could ever possibly spend, but all they care about making more. They can never be rich enough.
its not just rich people, but the huge, wealthy corporations as well. Money equals power and power corrupts. They use this power to influence legislation to their benefit for the purpose of making themselves richer and more powerful. Its to this end that the people, the country and the planet suffer.
In short, we have the best government that money can buy.
Would you be comfortable suggesting an alternative style of government that would work better? And "better" of course would be in the eye of each beholder.
 
The "rich"-who pays attention to them ? Recall the term "the jet set" , they were a favorite of the society and the gossip columnists, the papparazzi, etc. People who lead dull and boring lives pay attention to them, those of us who often find there are not enough hours in the day don't have the time for them.
Years ago I heard a Republican Congresswoman-Millicent Fenwick here in NJ tell a heckler at a public meeting that if NJ were to confiscate EVERYTHING from the 50 wealthiest families in NJ that would cover the state's budget for ONE year-then what ?
Whenever I heard someone complain about the huge salaries sports figures receive-"They make more in one day than a teacher makes in a year !" I point out the Big League teams are very selective in who they hire , their revenues come from tickets, merchandise, etc. that are bought by fans who can chose NOT to spend their money that way
 
Would you be comfortable suggesting an alternative style of government that would work better? And "better" of course would be in the eye of each beholder.
Like the one born from this philosophy? "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
We all know how that worked out, don't we.
 
I think we have to agree to disagree, I simply do not hold truck with anyone's skills or talents - especially of those currently alive - being 'worth' that much more than their fellow man's. Then figure in the typical advantages such a person gets - Lon and his dad's mine, etc - it doesn't balance.

Sorry, I disagree, and firmly.
All men are not created equal. A example is not everyone can be a doctor. Same with plumbers. Plumbing businesses that failed is due to incompetence of their plumbers.

A friend of my son has a grandfather, father and an aunt who are doctors. His career, pool boy. 20+ years cleaning pools and for extra money during the holidays works as a security guard.
 
Yep. Folks deriding “the rich” solely because they are rich is odd.

But I find the number of people who are eager to rush to defend the rich to be equally strange.

As far as I’m concerned, they can fend for themselves.
 
I saw on this or another forum that the 1%er earned $350k annually in 2008. In 2024 a 1%er was up to $750k annually. Anyone here doubled their income like that?

Chelsea Clinton is paid $900k annually by NBC and apparently it’s an office job because I never see her on TV or her name in the credits either.
She’s got a face for office work. Not tv.
 
I think we have to agree to disagree, I simply do not hold truck with anyone's skills or talents - especially of those currently alive - being 'worth' that much more than their fellow man's. Then figure in the typical advantages such a person gets - Lon and his dad's mine, etc - it doesn't balance.

Sorry, I disagree, and firmly.

*You should also research the company Tesla, as much of what you state there is incorrect, it's not existing with Musk, etc.
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This is a common misperception. Wealth inequity is nowhere near what it was in the late 1800s and the early 1900s. The chart below shows the true history of wealth in Europe/US since 1810. The top 10% of wealthy people controlled as much as 90% of their countries monies in 1910. Monopoly busters took their toll on the wealthiest and in return the amount of money held dropped by 30%. Bottom line is in general we are still below the 1810 levels and well below the 1910 levels.

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On the other hand:

The chart titled “Wealth inequality: Europe and the U.S., 1810–2010,” taken from Thomas Piketty’s influential book Capital in the Twenty-First Century (Harvard University Press, 2014), illustrates a sharp rise in U.S. wealth concentration among the top 1% and top 10% since around 1980, after a mid-20th-century period of relative equality. While both Europe and the U.S. experienced high levels of wealth inequality in the 19th and early 20th centuries, only the U.S. has seen a significant return to those levels in recent decades, with the top 1% now holding over a third of the nation’s wealth. This stark divergence suggests that inequality in the U.S. is not merely a perception but a measurable and growing phenomenon. The data underscores that income and wealth inequality in the U.S. today represent a serious structural issue, likely to affect economic opportunity, social mobility, and political stability.

Eye of the beholder and all that.
 
I'm referring to CEO vs lowest paid worker, not wealth shares per class. I don't make assumptions about economics - I may have different views than you, but I refer to facts. I am speaking of pay between the average or lowest paid worker versus the highest paid worker during the 'height' of American prowess in modern context, IE during the postwar era versus now, specifically.

I suspect overall we disagree. However, barring further misconstruing of what I'm talking about I'm out of this thread, as I don't view anything useful coming of it.
But surely you’d agree the CEO is worth many more times the wage of an entry level “whatever” ? I’m a retired teamster. I was an elected union rep. I was on the bargaining committee. I’ve seen the books. I know what management and officers of the company made. I also saw what the owners made. It never bothered me. Because if they were making money. I had a job. I guess I only worried about me. That’s all I could control.
 
Yep. Folks deriding “the rich” solely because they are rich is odd.

But I find the number of people who are eager to rush to defend the rich to be equally strange.

As far as I’m concerned, they can fend for themselves.
And yet I suspect most would love to join their ranks. And more will if we pursue policies that create capital formation rather than those that kill the geese that lay the golden eggs.
 
This is a educational and revealing thread. At 77 feel am not rich by many standards but have zero debt. Conservative by nature and never felt need to 'keep up with the Jones'es' and paid as i could afford what i have. Wonder the future of those particularly young folks who have to have the latest car, new homes and anything to show their status altho can't really afford to do that. They cannot save for their old age so when they turn 65 all they have is social security to live on while still in debt. Gonna be a tuff lesson.
 
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