winchester 180gr jhp

[ika'ika]

so im at wally world and as always I check out the ammo section for fun. every now and then I find some fmj and you cant beat the price. today though I found some Winchester 180gr jhp. I was curious as to anyones opinion on it. I bought three boxes. and had my wife buy three more. id like to use it for home defense if its good enough. if not it will make good target loads im sure.

I cant find any ballistic reports on them. that kind of a concern. are the just regarded as cheap plinking stuff?

at 22 buck a box I wont complain either way. but you fella's are far more experienced that I.

they will be loaded in a sd40ve. any comments will be greatly appreciated. thank you

 

[eddy18]

They are good for target practice, but I wouldnt recommend them for protection. For protection I would recommend some hornandy or federal holow points

 

[ika'ika]

I appreciate your answer. mind if I ask why?

 

[smokindog]

I'm not saying I agree nor disagree but WHY?

They are good for target practice, but I wouldnt recommend them for protection. For protection I would recommend some hornandy or federal holow points

 

[eddy18]

Fmj are more likely to go through your target and risk hitting anything or anyone not intended... hollow points expand and have more "stopping" power....
Ok I think I answered the wrong question...
Talking about winchester .40 180s I take them to the range all the time amd ssometims have some failures to feed in properly.... but then again it could just be my gun. But I have never had any problems with some nice and expensive hollow points
I shoot an sd40ve

 

[-db-]

He said they're JHPs and they're fine as a defensive round.

As for ballistics data, just Google the product code printed on the box.

Edit: here you go: http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/Value/JHP/Pages/USA40JHP.aspx

 

[eddy18]

Oh my bad I missed that... im just not used to seeing winchester and jhp together...Im used to seeing pdx

 

[WGSNewnan19]

its a good value based defensive round. Ive tested them in different media and they performed well. Just make sure you run a couple boxes of them through your gun before trusting them. Of course the same could be said for any round.

 

[Austin Cole]

I set up a fake wall(layer of sheet rock insulation another layer of sheet rock)I put my target on a 5/8 inch piece of plywood infront of wall to see types of penetration. I've only shot hydro shock Winchester white box hollow points and mag safe defender ammo at this. The Winchester went through both with barely any expansion. Hydro shock went through as well but expanded pretty good. The mag safe only one of the bigger slugs went all the way through the wall other bigger one was in the insulation the smaller ones were stuck in the plywood and in sheet rock. After this "test" I load mag safe when sd40ve is sitting in beside safe and hydro shock when I'm carrying. And the Winchester gets shot at the range. Still buy the Winchester cuz I can pick up 50round boxes for $23 at local gun store. Hope this info helps some. Good shooting

 

[ika'ika]

All of you guys are very helpful. Thank you very much

 

[ibewbull]

The heavier the projectile the deeper the penetration most times.
At 1010 FPS it is clocking pretty good.



Winchester .40 S&W 180 gr JHP (WWB) Test with Denim - YouTube

It looks like it over penetrates and lacks expansion.
I would load up some Critical defense or critical duty for home defense.
I keep the 12 gauge and a .38 with LSWCHP in the cylinder myself.
I do have a 40 and others but am leaning to the old school more each day.

Take care ,
Steve in Wisconsin

 

[ika'ika]

Yea. I keep a 20 gauge loaded up for the wife. And a 12 for myself. But its always nice to have a backup. And even though it a second or third option. I still need it to be reliable

 

[WGSNewnan19]

I love those tests using 4 layers of denim and wet newspapers.

I tried them using a Water filled jug covered with a rack of spare ribs, a haynes tshirt, and a hoodie. They performed as well as one could expect.

I figured my test setup was about as close to what I would see daily in my area.

 

[Nevada Ed]

The companies that make ammo usually have a bullet for
target work as a fmj or a bthp. The SP, pointed spritzer
is an all around bullet for close work and the BT (boattail) design is for longer distances past 300 yards.

The HP is by far the best design for SD work and the 180gr is
plenty, since it was made for Elk and Moose that weigh in at
800 to 1,500 pounds. Even a little 30 cal. 125gr bullet will do
the job for SD work, with around 2736 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzel!! Twelve times the energy of a +P 38 special.

Nice find.................enjoy.

 

[WGSNewnan19]

The companies that make ammo usually have a bullet for
target work as a fmj or a bthp. The SP, pointed spritzer
is an all around bullet for close work and the BT (boattail) design is for longer distances past 300 yards.

The HP is by far the best design for SD work and the 180gr is
plenty, since it was made for Elk and Moose that weigh in at
800 to 1,500 pounds. Even a little 30 cal. 125gr bullet will do
the job for SD work, with around 2736 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzel!! Twelve times the energy of a +P 38 special.

Nice find.................enjoy.

 

[Arik]

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[ika'ika]

a lot of the guys at the local gun shops recommend critical defense of critical duty. I don't really understand the pink plug in the hollow area. what is so special about these loads? and what is the deference between the two? thanks again folks

 

[brchambersjr]

The plug keeps the cavity of the hollow point from gathering debris from clothing and such before it has a chance to expand from body mass. If the hollow point gathers enough debris it could get clogged and act like ball ammo or FMJ and could potentially pass through the target and continue into another target past it. The plug in the Hornady line of self defense ammo reduces this issue. I personally like their products and carry them daily.

Oh, and Critical Defense is a regular load for self defense where Critical Duty will essentially pass through glass, Sheetrock and so on with minimal issues.

Check out this link.

http://m.hornady.com/support/critical-duty-and-critical-defense

 

[EBK]

a lot of the guys at the local gun shops recommend critical defense of critical duty. I don't really understand the pink plug in the hollow area. what is so special about these loads? and what is the deference between the two? thanks again folks

Difference between the 2 is Bullet weight and design Critical duty has the flex lock design so it has better weight retention than the critical defense, Critical duty also uses a slightly heavier bullet

Good performance through just about any barrier as far as expansion and penetration is the goal.

Hornady's New Critical Duty Faces FBI Ammo Test Protocol - YouTube

I cant say how good they are compared to other brands in the same test as I have not seen any other multiple barrier penetration tests done on any other ammo.

I can say I get Critical duty 175 grain .40 cal For less than any other brand around here so that is what I keep my SD40 VE stoked with. If I cant find those its Remington golden sabre or Winchester PDx1 i am looking for Usually heavy for caliber if i can find it.