Old TexMex
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Which are the best books for Winchester, Your favorite, go to reference?
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I have "The Winchester Handbook" by George Madis. I am not an expert or don't try to be but I have got a little information from the book. Larry
Have History of Winchester Arms [ 1866-1980 ] by Barnes. Great hardcover covering all models with pics but am not sure if available. Might be off Amazon. Some good info on each model in order and nos. produced. if ylu have a specific question on a certain model i will check for you Old Tex.
Ditto, I have same book pocket edition, never leave home without it. Only thing it's good for is production dates, serial
No. And quantity produced. I have many other books than get
into the various options, barrel lengths, ect. A must to study if
you are going to be laying out serious money for old Wins.
No. And quantity produced. I have many other books than get
into the various options, barrel lengths, ect. A must to study if
you are going to be laying out serious money for old Wins.
DWalt
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There are lots of Winchester-related books. Specifically what information are you looking for? There is very little Winchester information you can't get from the internet today, so unless you just like to have books on the shelf to read, then there is really no need to buy anything.
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Old TexMex
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I have been led to believe that very early Winchesters could be ordered from the works (or were "just made") with variations from standard. One thing, I'd like to know: when did the earliest ramp sight on an 1894 show up. I have one that either the ramp was aftermkt installed, or could it have been factory ordered. The barrel is a 16", without proofmark, in 32WS circa 1903.
I am, indeed, a dinosaur! I keep books around because it's relaxing to hold the darn things...and of course in case of the great catastrophe EOTWAWKI
Just funny that way, I guess.
Jim
I'm like Old Tex Mex, I like the books. If you read a few you can
soak up some smarts by accident, something that is not easy for
me to do on a screen. Was in our small town library the other day. They have computers, which are always occupied with people playing games, and do a good business lending out DVDs.
Books, they are a little short on them. I would say people need
to read a few more books. It's kind of like cashiers that can't
make change without read out on register. Tonight will pull out
a book and find out the ramp sight question. Am 99% sure no
ramp on 94 of that vintage from factory. However, going to see
if it was offered. Gun companies use to cater to customers wants
back in the day.
soak up some smarts by accident, something that is not easy for
me to do on a screen. Was in our small town library the other day. They have computers, which are always occupied with people playing games, and do a good business lending out DVDs.
Books, they are a little short on them. I would say people need
to read a few more books. It's kind of like cashiers that can't
make change without read out on register. Tonight will pull out
a book and find out the ramp sight question. Am 99% sure no
ramp on 94 of that vintage from factory. However, going to see
if it was offered. Gun companies use to cater to customers wants
back in the day.
DWalt
Member
For sure, in 1940 the ramp sight was in use.
model70hunter
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I have many, Rule's the riflemans rifle, MAdis and one on the Model 12.
I was looking for a book by a Miller on the Model 70, geez all my books are in storage and I don't remember if I ever found a copy.
There are books for almost every type. I never got into the 22's. But there are books on them too.
I was looking for a book by a Miller on the Model 70, geez all my books are in storage and I don't remember if I ever found a copy.
There are books for almost every type. I never got into the 22's. But there are books on them too.
sarg1c
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Mauser9, I also have the work by Barnes.Great reference material.One book I have used several times and sometimes just look through it....
Yeah glad I ordered it way back around 80-81. Came with a cardboard sleeve to protect the book. Sure would like to find a good reference for the 1873-1876 models. Any suggestions?
Winchester started at proofmarks to the barrel and receiver in 1904 approximately. Also from what I recall, there shouldn't be a ramp sight on a 1894 of that age. Further evidence is that you stated a 16" barrel which is a short rifle and would be special ordered and would be a very valuable rifle. But the vast majority of all short rifles have had barrel cut. So my guess would be its been cut and modified but the original barrel. Is the muzzle blued? Have a crown?
Regards,
Beau
Regards,
Beau
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Old TexMex
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Beau, the bbl measures 16 1/4", is crowned, which looks the same as the bbl. No proof mark. It's not a rifle, but a carbine with saddle ring. Receiver to rear sight slot is 2 1/4". Has a crescent buttstock.
Thanks,
Jim
Dunno if the best but probably the best that I own.
Winchester Handbook, Volumes 1 & 2 by Bill West- West Arms Library.
sarg1c
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I found a parts breakdown for the 1873 in the GUN DIGEST BOOK OF EXPLODED LONG GUN DRAWINGS. DB I BOOKS Inc. Edited by Harold A. Murtz.
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sarg1c
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I found a little work on the development of the 1873. How it all began in 1848 by Walter Hunt which evolved into the Winchester in 1866 by Benjamin Tyler Henry and Courtland Palmer with the help of Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson (Smith and Wesson) (The World Encyclopedia of Rifles and Machine Guns.) HERMES HOUSE by Will Fowler and Patrick Sweeney.
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sarg1c
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The 1873 carbine had a 20 inch barrel and the rifle had a 24 inch half octagon barrel according to (Gun TradersGuide)the thirty fifth Edition Skyhorse Publishing I won't publish the going price...
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