Winchester W Train and Defend Handgun Ammo??

[Reggie TisFree]

Anybody know where to find any of this, Winchester W Train and Defend Handgun Ammo 9mm[/I]???
It was rated by a YouTube guru higher than Federal HST...now there is no trace of it anywhere I've seen.

Anyone ever used it or have any experience with it?

Later,
Reg

 

[Rob613]

It was one of my favorite 9mm rounds and has some of the best performance out of 3”-4” barrels for 147.

I have some Train tucked away for training classes as I carry the Defend.

I have not found it for sale anywhere in over a year now.

 

[chief38]

I don'r recall seeing that ammo in stores even prior to the current crises but quite honestly I use Federal HST 124 grain std. vel. for my own SD so I don't really keep an eye out for this stuff. That said, it has been rated pretty high! Good luck in finding some.

 

[murphydog]

The HP was/is pretty highly rated, and the idea of having a matched FMJ round for practice is a good one. Now all it needs is to get back on the shelves...

 

[Rubone]

Haven't seen any for a while. My wife used a bunch of it in a defensive handgun course a few years back. Over 500 rds in less than 24 hours of .38 through a model 60 S&W. All double action!

 

[stansdds]

It was an interesting concept, but I never bought into it. It is likely a good idea for someone who is only going to practice with one box of ammo a few times a year. Not a great idea if you plan to practice a lot.

 

[Reggie TisFree]

I don'r recall seeing that ammo in stores even prior to the current crises but quite honestly I use Federal HST 124 grain std. vel. for my own SD so I don't really keep an eye out for this stuff. That said, it has been rated pretty high! Good luck in finding some.

I concur Federal HST 124/+P124, 147/+P 147 are some HARD ammo to beat...also Speer GD 124+P is Stout as well...not to mention Buffaloe Bore 124 +P & Black Hills 125 gr Honey Badger!!

 

[Racer X]

Has there ever been a good comparison test between the HST and the Ranger T?

The Train and Defend were easily found Pre Covid at BPS and Cabelas.

 

[HardlyAble2]

I also prefer the 147g load for my use. What puzzles me about Winchester is the different 147g offerings. They have the Ranger/T-series bonded or non bonded; the PDX and the Train&Defend. Is there really 4 different bullets used? Or are the Train/Defend and T-Series (either one) the same. The PDX and T-Series bonded the same? I scored a brick (or 2) of the non bonded T-Series before the stupid began. Good luck finding any of it now...