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Just had to disable windows update entirely on my wife's laptop so she could get some work done. It is an utter goat rope. I'd already killed Superfetch and Windows Search. When we first met I killed some junk apps that came preloaded that were using 50% of the machine looking for stupid game updates.

At this rate we'll have to go back to mainframes disconnected from the Web to get anything done.:mad:
 
Every time Win 10 does an auto-update, I immediately remove all of their extra, unwanted junk, then reboot. Their most recent update was the worst, as it somehow disabled my wireless mouse (desktop PC) after the first click.

There are some pretty amazing freeware programs out there that competently mitigates the pitfalls of Big Brother Microsoft's overbearing operating systems. ;)
 
I've used Win 10 at home since it first came out, and at least for home it obeys me and usually behaves after the forced updates. At work, a different story - no control over the makes and models we can buy. Wednesday I take possession of 40 brand new Dell laptops with state-mandated hardware and settings. Luckily these are for my museum, for public use, so I can wipe them and set them up with a clean image. Going to be a lot of work... :(
 
Haven't made it to Windows 10 yet, but 7 allowed you to turn off the automatic update. Then you can get notified there is an update available, and preview what the update is. Any update for explorer is serious trouble, as is internet explorer.
 
My update happened in the middle of the night Friday. No problems with it except the image I used as wallpaper disappeared and the screen was black. I just found it in my picture files and reset it as wallpaper and I'm good to go. This was a security update mostly so make sure you do it. A recent vulnerability was found and this included the fix.
 
Timely.

I just had to kill Windows Update and delete everything from the update download folder to get 1903 to download. I sometimes wonder what people who weren't in systems work like I was prior to retirement do when they have problems.
 
One big change I discovered was that there is no longer a Windows Defender and it has been changed to Windows Security. Must be a new enhanced feature.
 
My windows 7 and even my Mac browsers no longer are supported by updates. I had to go to firefox just to use my windows 7 browser now.
I bought an IMAC figuring when my windows 7 crashed I would just go with my IMAC but that plan failed as well.
 
How’s your BetaMax holding up . . . ?

gman51 said:
My windows 7 and even my Mac browsers no longer are supported by updates. I had to go to firefox just to use my windows 7 browser now.
I bought an IMAC figuring when my windows 7 crashed I would just go with my IMAC but that plan failed as well.
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THE PILGRIM said:
Running 10, got all the updates.
No problems!
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Maybe it's a laptop thing, but certain Win10 activities choke her machine something awful. I've done all the tweaks to make sure it operates at 100% and it still gets dragged down. Next thing is to see if there are some funky background tasks that are also causing grief.
 
Yes, recommend anytime you try to tune up a Win computer,
Do the 3 finger boogie and see what’s running.
Then go to Start Up Programs and stop some, delay some.
The trash programs will often auto boot, just delete them.
 
Windows Security is just the new branding for Windows Defender, except with the background monitoring more exposed. Meh - it's what Windows does, we deal with it , or we don't. Not like it's a secret.

7 will not shut down after January. It just doesn't keep getting updates. If you use a good anti-virus, such as Webroot, or Bitdefender, they should still keep you protected. Odds are, Windows Security, or Defender, won't update. I doubt they will quit, but will keep getting less useful.
 
LVSteve, try another reboot if you haven't already. All kinds of interesting things happen when you do that.
 
fiasconva said:
LVSteve, try another reboot if you haven't already. All kinds of interesting things happen when you do that.
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Ya know, when Win 10 is involved, the idea of another reboot doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.:eek:
 
My experience with Windows versions and the updates over the years is Microsoft does what it wants, no matter what we do. Mostly, the 10 OS is ok, and in some ways, faster than 7 or 8. But things they do to the rest of it during updates is the PITA. Went around work all day finding and fixing that the last update for 10, or even 7, put Windows Media Player up front again, no matter the user's choice, which is almost never WMP.
 
fiasconva said:
One big change I discovered was that there is no longer a Windows Defender and it has been changed to Windows Security. Must be a new enhanced feature.
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This last Windows update disabled Norton Antivirus on my computer. Said it wasn't compatible anymore. Did a reinstall and everything is okay.

Windows Defender popped up after the update so it must still be around.
 
Running Norton. Get it from my ISP.
Never loaded Defender or the new Security.
No problems with upgrades!
Make sure you only have one Firewall up.
When you mess around with different Anti-virus programs, you can get some unexpected and undesirable results.
You should delete the anti-virus you aren’t using.
 
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I have finished updating four machines to 1903, and am having troubles with the fifth. If that one doesn't come around soon it is going to get flattened and get Ubuntu installed. The machine that I am dreading is one that we use down at the church for A/V. We don't have Wi-fi down there, so it has not had any updates in some time. Probably tomorrow I will swap it out with another machine and bring it home for updates and installation of 1903.
 
The latest Win10 update I have allows you to delay updates for a week and set times that you use the machine so as not to update during working hours.
 
I no longer run WIn.10 as a main machine but I found M/S Silverlight was a horrible program and caused me lots of problems. I still have a laptop on Win.7 and I have found that IE is a big problem it constantly crashes and so I have had to revert to Chrome or FF for a decent browser and, even they want to mess up from time to time. Overall my Mid 2011 iMac just works.
 
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Ogandydancer said:
I no longer run WIn.10 as a main machine but I found M/S Silverlight was a horrible program and caused mr lots of problems. I still have a loptop on Win.7 and I have found that IE is a big problem it constantly crashes and so I have had to revert to Chrome or FF for a decent browser and, even they want to mess up from time to time. Overall my Mid 2011 iMac just works.
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Silverlight? Are you kidding?
You are dragging around a dead dog!
A clean Win10 install with a good Browser, I prefer FoxFire, runs just fine, thank you very much!
And I did not have to revert to FoxFire, I tried several available Browsers and I prefer FoxFire.
Prefer Chrome on the iPad, using it right now.
 
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JohnRippert said:
The latest Win10 update I have allows you to delay updates for a week and set times that you use the machine so as not to update during working hours.
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IIRC that facility is only available on the Pro version of Win 10.
 
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