I'm thinking of getting a dog because of recent thefts and just because I want a dog. I've been living where I am now for about 14 years and it's been that long since I've had a dog. Probably a rescue dog from the county animal shelter. I'll need some sort of way to keep him/her in the yard and since a regular fence is not feasible I'm thinking of one of the wireless fences. Anyone with experience with one or recommendations of what brand? Thanks.
Wireless dog fences.
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doublesharp
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When we first got Barney we got one with the flags to mark boundaries and a shock collar that gave a mild shock when he got close. I didn't have the heart to make him get used to the collar. When the shock would come he would just sit in the yard and tremble. Screw that.
I got a vinyl covered 3 lb dumbbell and looped a length of rope around the center handgrip. Attached that to his collar and that gave him some drag. Worked good for a couple years but by then he was so in shape that he could drag that weight like it wasn't there. I was set up at a small gun show and my table neighbor put up fences so I had him make me a dog pen. I don't think I've ever spent money any better, been about 7 years now and the fence is holding up well and I've still got my dogs so it must work.
I got a vinyl covered 3 lb dumbbell and looped a length of rope around the center handgrip. Attached that to his collar and that gave him some drag. Worked good for a couple years but by then he was so in shape that he could drag that weight like it wasn't there. I was set up at a small gun show and my table neighbor put up fences so I had him make me a dog pen. I don't think I've ever spent money any better, been about 7 years now and the fence is holding up well and I've still got my dogs so it must work.
Doug M.
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I am not a fan, for several reasons.
1) If the dog is motivated by something (prey, whatever) to cross the fence, s/he will ignore the zap, but likely will not be able to ignore it to come back in.
2) It gives a false sense of security, in that the dog is not protected from malicious people or other aggressive animals. The former are much more of a risk than the latter.
3) Here, a fence with a locked gate automatically makes it a crime for someone to enter your yard, which has certain advantages in addressing unwanted "guests". If someone can get in to your yard without being impeded and the dog bites them, there is likely a LOT less protection from legal issues related to the bite.
Dogs, especially protection dogs of any type, need to be inside the home. Both they and you are safer.
1) If the dog is motivated by something (prey, whatever) to cross the fence, s/he will ignore the zap, but likely will not be able to ignore it to come back in.
2) It gives a false sense of security, in that the dog is not protected from malicious people or other aggressive animals. The former are much more of a risk than the latter.
3) Here, a fence with a locked gate automatically makes it a crime for someone to enter your yard, which has certain advantages in addressing unwanted "guests". If someone can get in to your yard without being impeded and the dog bites them, there is likely a LOT less protection from legal issues related to the bite.
Dogs, especially protection dogs of any type, need to be inside the home. Both they and you are safer.
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Neighbor had one of those electric dog fence setups. Worked real well. Both his dogs knew exactly where the boundary was and would never cross it until they saw something that they wanted to get to or chase or whatever. I watched them do it. They looked at each other like this is gonna hurt then got a bit antsy for a moment and ran though it with a loud yelp. Forget about it.
I had one for many years. Worked as well as a regular fence. Having said that, a highly motivated dog can get past either.
The larger the yard, the larger you can make the zone were the dog is zapped.
Training is paramount. You MUST dedicate the time to train the dog to recognize his boundary.
My experience was with Invisible Fence. It's a franchise. They, or you can install.
AND
get a lightning protector. Ask me how I know....
The larger the yard, the larger you can make the zone were the dog is zapped.
Training is paramount. You MUST dedicate the time to train the dog to recognize his boundary.
My experience was with Invisible Fence. It's a franchise. They, or you can install.
AND
get a lightning protector. Ask me how I know....
Marshwheeling
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I used to have an invisible fence with the underground wire. It worked well for the dogs I had then, until a neighbor who was plowing snow for me cut the wire with his blade (yeah, it should have been deeper, but a pothole developed near the end of my driveway).
A friend uses a wireless one with his aussie, but I don't think it would work well in my yard, nor do I think it would contain my aussie. My 4-ft. fence will keep three of my dogs in, but not Tusker, who will find a way over a 6-ft. chain link fence if he really wants out.
A friend uses a wireless one with his aussie, but I don't think it would work well in my yard, nor do I think it would contain my aussie. My 4-ft. fence will keep three of my dogs in, but not Tusker, who will find a way over a 6-ft. chain link fence if he really wants out.
Doug hit all the reasons not to get an invisible fence! If you can't do a large fence (leaving the dog outside), build a dog pen to use when the dog is outside and bring it inside otherwise. JMO
We have had a underground fence for 14 years, I put it in. The collar has a warning beep before the "shock" Which is nothing (yes I have zapped myself) A little more than a static shock in the winter on carpet, Once they hear or sense the beeping they stop.
We have a Jack Russel. He went at it one or two times in his life, That was it, He knows the boundary of the yard.
You do not just put the wire in and that's it. You need to walk your dog around the perimeter, They give you flags as visual markers. It's like training you dog to do anything. It's up to you.
My dog doesn't even wear the collar any more,
They work, it depends on you property, dog and environment.
My Springer Spaniel before this dog,we had no fence, and just trained her to stay in the yard, which she did no matter what.
My Sister up North has some very BIG Alaskan Malamutes she had the fence professional installed. The dogs are so big and so much fur she had to get double collars/ longer prongs. and a stronger jolt. It took a lot longer for him to figure it out like seeing a rabbit!
We have a Jack Russel. He went at it one or two times in his life, That was it, He knows the boundary of the yard.
You do not just put the wire in and that's it. You need to walk your dog around the perimeter, They give you flags as visual markers. It's like training you dog to do anything. It's up to you.
My dog doesn't even wear the collar any more,
They work, it depends on you property, dog and environment.
My Springer Spaniel before this dog,we had no fence, and just trained her to stay in the yard, which she did no matter what.
My Sister up North has some very BIG Alaskan Malamutes she had the fence professional installed. The dogs are so big and so much fur she had to get double collars/ longer prongs. and a stronger jolt. It took a lot longer for him to figure it out like seeing a rabbit!
zzzippper
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Twice I returned a woman's dog that ran through the invisible fence. I didn't mind it because shevwas smokingcHOT (the woman, not the dog). Sadly she was never grateful enough to ask me in.
old tanker
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Same results
An old girlfriend had the same experience with the "buried wire system." After flagging the yard and conditioning the dogs it would work until they saw something they really wanted. When they came back they would sit outside the "zap zone" until she turned it off and brought them back in.
She later got a wireless system with a transmitter in the house. When they got out of range it triggered the shock collar and it stayed on unlike the other system which shocked when in proximity to the buried wire.
That was more effective when the dogs figured out that they couldn't outrun it. They also quickly figured out the difference between a regular collar, the shock collar and the dummy training collar.
Guess the success of one method over the other depends as much on the temperament of the dog as as does the technical features of the system.
An old girlfriend had the same experience with the "buried wire system." After flagging the yard and conditioning the dogs it would work until they saw something they really wanted. When they came back they would sit outside the "zap zone" until she turned it off and brought them back in.
She later got a wireless system with a transmitter in the house. When they got out of range it triggered the shock collar and it stayed on unlike the other system which shocked when in proximity to the buried wire.
That was more effective when the dogs figured out that they couldn't outrun it. They also quickly figured out the difference between a regular collar, the shock collar and the dummy training collar.
Guess the success of one method over the other depends as much on the temperament of the dog as as does the technical features of the system.
sureshotbob
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I've got a PetSafe brand wireless set up for my Beagle Sammie.
It can be set for up to a 150 ft radius. The collar has 5 levels of shock power you can set. It gives a warning beep about 5 ft from the shock point. If Sammie hears that he will do a quick about face as he has been shocked a few times and wants no part of that.
For me it works out great and did not take long for Sammie to learn the boundries. The battery in the collar last a few months for me but the more the dog test it it will use up the battery.
I bought my unit from a local Pet Smart store . The cost was around $300.00 For me it was a good investment as it works good for Sammie. But as said if the dog is really determined they can run through it.
I hope this has been some help.
It can be set for up to a 150 ft radius. The collar has 5 levels of shock power you can set. It gives a warning beep about 5 ft from the shock point. If Sammie hears that he will do a quick about face as he has been shocked a few times and wants no part of that.
For me it works out great and did not take long for Sammie to learn the boundries. The battery in the collar last a few months for me but the more the dog test it it will use up the battery.
I bought my unit from a local Pet Smart store . The cost was around $300.00 For me it was a good investment as it works good for Sammie. But as said if the dog is really determined they can run through it.
I hope this has been some help.
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We've had a PetSafe Guardian model for about 3 months.
It recently shorted out and quit working (may have been caused by a lightning storm). Good news was the store swapped it with no trouble.
It works well. It gives a warning beep before a shock, and the beep is enough to turn the dog around.
If he does happen to go through the barrier (he hasn't), the system will allow the dog to come back into the perimeter without shocking him again when he crosses back.
It recently shorted out and quit working (may have been caused by a lightning storm). Good news was the store swapped it with no trouble.
It works well. It gives a warning beep before a shock, and the beep is enough to turn the dog around.
If he does happen to go through the barrier (he hasn't), the system will allow the dog to come back into the perimeter without shocking him again when he crosses back.
JcMack
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I've got a fairly large yard with no fence. 14 years ago I bought 8-4X8ft sections of prefab cyclone fence. The house makes up one leg of the fenced in yard within a yard. I like it because my dogs are no where near passers by when in their fenced area.
I have always had small dogs. Small dogs make small poop. I've not heard much in favor of electric fencing.
I have always had small dogs. Small dogs make small poop. I've not heard much in favor of electric fencing.
I know of an old German Shepherd.
This German Shepherd (named 'Klink') would want to get out of the yard so he would roll around and moan and cry because he knew the REAL wire electric would hurt. But he always went over with a Yelp when he hit it and took off down the road.
This German Shepherd (named 'Klink') would want to get out of the yard so he would roll around and moan and cry because he knew the REAL wire electric would hurt. But he always went over with a Yelp when he hit it and took off down the road.
I want to buy collars for all the stray cats in the neighbor hood and then they will get zapped coming onto my property and howling at the back door or climbing on my car.
Maybe I can rig it to 220 Volts?
Maybe I can rig it to 220 Volts?
manyguns
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We have the petsmart wireless system also. We use it on our American Bulldog. Works fine. You need to keep track of the battery cause they learn real quick when it dies. I think the dogs personality makes a big difference on how well they work out.
coltle6920
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My sister inherited a dog that refused to be corralled in by an electric fence.She lived in the Foothills of Colorado.She came home from work to find this dog roaming around her yard.The dog had a ID tag on it's collar so she took the dog back to it's owner and didn't think much about it.A couple of days later the same dog was back in her yard so again she returned it to it's owner.Sure enough within a week the dog was back.This time she had a chat with the dogs owner and found out that the owner had two other dogs that would stay in the yard.The dog that kept getting out apparently wasn't phased by the shock from the fence.The owner offered my sister the dog and both sides ended up being happy.
5-Shot
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A few years ago I lived in a private rural community out west. Fences were against the rules so a lady got her schnauzer an invisible fence. It worked great until she home one day to a schnauzer head; collar still attached. The coyotes didn't like getting shocked either. Depending on your location, it's something to think about.
Ed
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YIKES!!!!!!!!!!
My shooting buddy has 2 GSP's. The older dog has learned when the beeping starts he lays down, when battery runs down he then takes off.
