WWB Problem?

[kelljor]

Has anyone had a problem with WWB 9mm ammo? I have a couple of non Smith semis, and on both of them I had one FTE; the casing stayed in the chamber and I had to poke the empty out with a cleaning Rod. I have never had a problem with either of these guns; have put everything else through them without a problem. In both cases today I was shooting WWB; the kind you buy in the 100 round size.
I seem to recall disparaging remarks somewhere about Winchester White Box, but can't pinpoint where.
So has anyone else had this problem with this ammo?
THX

 

[Rule3]

I used to shoot a lot of it. That was a while ago. It was fine back then
Did it go bang?
It's not always the ammo. Could be dirty gun, weak recoil spring
There are always people that claim xyz ammo sucks or so and so powder is not good etc etc.
Try a good cleaning and new spring

 

[pharmer]

I bought 13,500 rds of it 20 years ago. One dud in the 11,000 rds I personally fired. Dead primer as it was fully dented from firing pin drop. Definitely practice ammo, not “bet my life on it” stuff. Joe

 

[stansdds]

I think a lot of the Winchester white box (USA) stuff is loaded with different powders and possibly have slightly less velocity than their premium line or mil-spec ammo.

 

[kelljor]

Definitely not a dirty gun............I clean after each session and this was in the first 25 or so rounds. Maybe the spring, for a 1911 the slide racks really easy (it's a RIA). Haven't had a problem with any other ammo. I did, however, have a couple out of the same lot with a different gun and had a FTE that I haven't had with that gun either. When I poked the casing out of the chamber I used a cleaning rod and had to tap it a little to get it to fall free. Didn't think to look at the case to see if it was bulged a little.
I was just curious as to anybody else having an issue with that ammo. Not slamming or blaming the brand at all, just curious.
Joe: there isn't a semi auto I would bet my life on. Anything I think I might have to use to defend myself has the little round spinny thing just behind hole the copper piece goes down.

 

[desi2358]

Has anyone had a problem with WWB 9mm ammo? I have a couple of non Smith semis, and on both of them I had one FTE; the casing stayed in the chamber and I had to poke the empty out with a cleaning Rod. I have never had a problem with either of these guns; have put everything else through them without a problem. In both cases today I was shooting WWB; the kind you buy in the 100 round size.
I seem to recall disparaging remarks somewhere about Winchester White Box, but can't pinpoint where.
So has anyone else had this problem with this ammo?
THX

There have been a lot of complaints floating around for all Winchester ammo the last couple years. Seem to have really taken off after they opened a new ammo plant down south. As to WWB it was always their cheap, discount line and the main complaint in the past was that it was really dirty (cheaper powder?) with occasional reports of misfires and/or poor accuracy. Heard more than a few complaints when we had the gun shop. After we closed and I started part timing at walmart still had people complaining about it (but a lot of them still bought it because it was cheaper). Even after walmart quit selling handgun ammo I still heard the occasional complaint from regulars along with whining because they couldn't get it from there anymore.

 

[M1A4ME]

In years past I've seen it be both weak and dirty. Low pressure causes the case mouth/walls not to seal well with the chamber and allows a lot of burnt powder residue back into the action.

Accuracy wasn't as good with that ammo in my CZ pistols but it seems to do okay in the M&Ps (Shields, Shield Plus and Equalizer.)

 

[Doug M.]

I can recall years of strong negative commentary about WWB in another forum.

 

[sparkyvega]

Yup. Several OOS rounds in my box and mixed headstamps. I won't use this çŕ@p anymore...ever. It caused stoppages.








I saw this on the yootoobe a few days ago.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

The Police Department I retired from has been using WWB since 1996 for Training, Practice and Qualifications. On Duty we have the premium Ranger line of Hollow Points.

Of course it was likely the low bid but they usually go “bang”.

 

[rockquarry]

This sort of thing happens when you use cost as the determining factor for purchasing factory ammo. Just a suggestion if you don't handload: try a small sample (one box) of at least five or six ammos, get a couple of rock bottom cheap ones and the rest of better quality, not necessarily the most expensive unless that's your choice.

Shoot a few benchrested 25 yard groups paying attention to feeding, reliability (one failure to fire is cause to reject an ammo), and group size. Then shoot offhand at the same distance to check point of impact vs. point of aim. You'll easily be able to select the best ammo and if you're fortunate maybe a couple will tie for first place. Shooting at 25 yards will tell you far more than shooting up closer and you won't waste ammo in picking the best.

After you've done your homework, you can buy in bulk and not be disappointed.

If you handload and do good load development and testing, you won't have to deal with "less than the best" factory ammo. However, some don't care to handload; that's okay and understandable.

 

[Greyman50]

Know no one who shoot WWB, junk.