Your Take on Tariffs and Ammo Prices?
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There are a lot of Forum Member responses alluding to 'jacking up the price and blaming tariffs'. They are 100% correct. If anything when the negotiating is finished trade deals will be better for the US. It may take awhile, but I am seeing many Countries already willing to negotiate. I would avoid Dealers raising prices due to tariffs!
Relax folks, the “threat” is starting to work:
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Just as with anything else the prices for ammo and reloading components, and even firearms, made outside of the US are going to rise. How much and for how long is anybody's guess.
Fortunately, except for 22lr, I reload for all my firearms and have been buying and stashing powder, bullets, and primers for a while now.
Taking into consideration how often I shoot I figure that I have enough components to last for a number of years plus about 8000 rounds of 22lr ammo.
As a back up I also have, except for 22lr, molds for all the calibers I shoot, about 500lbs of casting lead, and enough coating powder to cover all the bullets I'd cast.
Fortunately, except for 22lr, I reload for all my firearms and have been buying and stashing powder, bullets, and primers for a while now.
Taking into consideration how often I shoot I figure that I have enough components to last for a number of years plus about 8000 rounds of 22lr ammo.
As a back up I also have, except for 22lr, molds for all the calibers I shoot, about 500lbs of casting lead, and enough coating powder to cover all the bullets I'd cast.
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Guys, the 'other' tariff thread was shut down because it was drawing political comments. This one will suffer the same fate, and dings will be issued accordingly if you stray into that forbidden zone. Please, do not go there!
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I’m in agreement that this will shake out pretty quickly. There’ll be a few difficult countries like China, Canada and a few Europeans but many other smaller countries want a piece of the US trade and will jump through hoops backward to get it. And in the end those holding out will cave. China especially has serious economic problems so they will in the end cave as will Europe and Canada. Also those that move quickly on a deal will get the best deals. I’m not 100% optimistic but countries dropping tariffs could cause prices to drop. This may stimulate a new world of competitiveness.
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Sounds just like me. I guess we are both "preppers". My lead supply is down to 550 pounds and I have enough brass forever.
Except rimfire. Over the past 15 years or so we have seen major shortages there. The last time they became plentiful at a good price I cashed in a few SS checks and hoarded up 39 bricks. I figure that will last me until age 93.
My only worry is that my Grandpa lived to 95, so I may need to buy some more.
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Regarding powder, I believe there is no longer any manufactured in the US for civilian sale, only military - St.Marks in Florida and Radford in Virginia. If there is a US powder manufacturer presently selling to the public market, I would like to know who it is.
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I'd like to see the tariffs go to about 300%. It is long past time for us to level the playing field and employ Americans to start making and growing stuff here again.
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Have you heard of the Smoot-Hawley Act? Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia
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Selling ammo online is a very competitive business. As much as the sellers would like to raise prices they cannot due to competition so the margins are low. If they have to pay more they will have to raise prices, they cannot absorb the higher costs.
If the tariffs stick prices will go up. But not as much as the actual tariff. The tariff is on the price whoever imported paid for it on the dock which is quite a bit less than the retail price we pay for it. There are domestic manufacturers that can use this as an opportunity to gain market share which will also act to moderate price increases. And nobody is panic buying right now which is usually the main cause of big price increases.
If the tariffs stick prices will go up. But not as much as the actual tariff. The tariff is on the price whoever imported paid for it on the dock which is quite a bit less than the retail price we pay for it. There are domestic manufacturers that can use this as an opportunity to gain market share which will also act to moderate price increases. And nobody is panic buying right now which is usually the main cause of big price increases.
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DWalt
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Seems that a 90 day pause on tariff increases has just been declared. But tariff on Chinese goods has been raised to 125%.
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I have been through half a dozen shortages and bans. I have prepared fairly well, stocking ammo, powder, primers, bullets and lead to cast my own bullets. I have enough to last my life time and my sons. I'm going to sit this one out and simply enjoying the guns and ammo I have.
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This came up in another thread that recently got closed. I replied to that and said that my Hodgdon powders say "Made in USA".
There may be others....google it.
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It makes me sick when I buy a product where there is only one choice. Many are distributed by USA companies. Yet, when I open the package it says chinacrap.
Raise the china tariff to 500%. I'll do without or fix what I currently have.
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If anybody ever comes up with an effective system to reload 22lr they'll be a multimillionaire over night.
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Insofar as my research has discovered, the sole US manufacturer of small arms smokeless powder remaining today is St. Marks in Florida. They make only ball powders. I have seen no definitive information, but the belief is that St. Marks at present is making powder only for military related purchasers, none for civilian reloader outlets such as Hodgdon. All other sources of powder are foreign imports from Canada, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Finland, and several other nations. Some talk about White River getting into powder manufacture, but that is just talk.
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Take a deep breath, now take another. At the tender age of 77, I just don't care about so many things.
When prices were "relaxed", I stocked up, even if it was twice the 1978 price -- this was the present. Now I can't shoot free hand, but off a bench and bags I'm good to go. I am determined not to have reloading supplies, reloaded ammo, or excess guns in the Estate Sale.
I really don't care about tariffs or higher prices. I drank coffee at $5 can prices and I'm still drinking coffee at $15 can prices. It is my money, not their inheritance ! !
When prices were "relaxed", I stocked up, even if it was twice the 1978 price -- this was the present. Now I can't shoot free hand, but off a bench and bags I'm good to go. I am determined not to have reloading supplies, reloaded ammo, or excess guns in the Estate Sale.
I really don't care about tariffs or higher prices. I drank coffee at $5 can prices and I'm still drinking coffee at $15 can prices. It is my money, not their inheritance ! !
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